1 00:00:05,499 --> 00:00:02,960 welcome to the Space Telescope public 2 00:00:09,500 --> 00:00:05,509 lecture series in our very first 3 00:00:12,470 --> 00:00:09,510 online-only edition today we have Benny 4 00:00:14,330 --> 00:00:12,480 hall where Duff speaking on from the 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:14,340 University of Louisville speaking on 6 00:00:21,500 --> 00:00:18,170 Rubens galaxy gentle giant spiral galaxy 7 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:21,510 I'm your host dr. Frank summers of the 8 00:00:27,019 --> 00:00:23,930 Space Telescope Science Institute and 9 00:00:29,419 --> 00:00:27,029 I'm the Space Telescope public lecture 10 00:00:33,260 --> 00:00:29,429 series will be online only for the rest 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:33,270 of 2020 and I want to thank the amazing 12 00:00:40,190 --> 00:00:36,930 team at Space Telescope for producing 13 00:00:42,260 --> 00:00:40,200 all of this in special our thanks to the 14 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:42,270 amazing tech team Thomas Maroof ooh and 15 00:00:47,529 --> 00:00:44,850 grant justice without whom this special 16 00:00:50,209 --> 00:00:47,539 online-only edition wouldn't be possible 17 00:00:54,229 --> 00:00:50,219 so we have speakers lined up for the 18 00:00:57,290 --> 00:00:54,239 rest of a twenty twenty next month in 19 00:01:00,170 --> 00:00:57,300 July will mi Amoro Martin will be 20 00:01:02,959 --> 00:01:00,180 speaking on interstellar comets these 21 00:01:05,929 --> 00:01:02,969 are comets that have come from other 22 00:01:07,850 --> 00:01:05,939 solar systems and entered into our 23 00:01:08,929 --> 00:01:07,860 planetary system you're really gonna 24 00:01:11,030 --> 00:01:08,939 want to hear that that's gonna be 25 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:11,040 fantastic in August 26 00:01:16,789 --> 00:01:13,650 Quinn heart will be talking about the 27 00:01:18,050 --> 00:01:16,799 physics of astrophysics and I know that 28 00:01:19,700 --> 00:01:18,060 sounds really geeky but she actually 29 00:01:20,990 --> 00:01:19,710 said you know that's sort of the topic 30 00:01:22,910 --> 00:01:21,000 that I'm gonna talk about but I'll give 31 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:22,920 you a really cool title so next month 32 00:01:26,899 --> 00:01:24,570 we'll have a really cool title that 33 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:26,909 won't sound so so geeky but actually 34 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:29,850 it's really interesting how how much 35 00:01:34,340 --> 00:01:32,130 physics is there is underlying the 36 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00:04:43,930 we challenge ourselves to come up with a 107 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:47,230 really cool image to celebrate what are 108 00:04:52,380 --> 00:04:50,170 we gonna do to top ourselves well this 109 00:04:54,840 --> 00:04:52,390 year we came up with an amazing image 110 00:04:58,710 --> 00:04:54,850 and this was the image that we came up 111 00:05:02,370 --> 00:04:58,720 with it's a picture of the red nebula 112 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:02,380 which is NGC 2014 and the smaller blue 113 00:05:09,540 --> 00:05:06,930 nebula which is NGC 2020 and this is 114 00:05:12,410 --> 00:05:09,550 really gorgeous it's you know hundreds 115 00:05:15,300 --> 00:05:12,420 of megapixels all sorts of detailed and 116 00:05:17,250 --> 00:05:15,310 - when we were first looking at it it 117 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:17,260 sort of had this you know brain coral 118 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:19,930 type feel to it and we sort of got that 119 00:05:23,730 --> 00:05:22,090 oh well maybe the NGC 2020 is this 120 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:23,740 little jellyfish dancing around on a 121 00:05:31,650 --> 00:05:27,370 coral reef and so the nickname came up 122 00:05:34,950 --> 00:05:31,660 to call it the cosmic reef and I would 123 00:05:38,250 --> 00:05:34,960 tell you all about this image but I'm 124 00:05:41,220 --> 00:05:38,260 not because I've already done it on the 125 00:05:43,650 --> 00:05:41,230 30th anniversary we did a YouTube 126 00:05:47,370 --> 00:05:43,660 webcast of the Hubble Space Telescope 127 00:05:51,210 --> 00:05:47,380 30th anniversary image unveiling with me 128 00:05:54,810 --> 00:05:51,220 and Allen asabi describing Hubble and 129 00:05:57,630 --> 00:05:54,820 the 30 years and the details of this new 130 00:06:00,960 --> 00:05:57,640 image so if you go to youtube and type 131 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:00,970 in Hubble 30 image unveiling this will 132 00:06:06,570 --> 00:06:04,330 be your first hit and you can watch a 30 133 00:06:08,370 --> 00:06:06,580 minute presentation on the 30th 134 00:06:10,890 --> 00:06:08,380 anniversary image which saves me from 135 00:06:14,990 --> 00:06:10,900 having to repeat all that during my news 136 00:06:18,930 --> 00:06:15,000 from the universe today our second story 137 00:06:20,490 --> 00:06:18,940 baitul juice is back to normal if you 138 00:06:23,490 --> 00:06:20,500 were here in March 139 00:06:26,700 --> 00:06:23,500 you saw that I talked about the super 140 00:06:28,770 --> 00:06:26,710 red supergiant star bail juice most of 141 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:28,780 you may know that it is the right 142 00:06:33,570 --> 00:06:31,210 shoulder of Orion it's on the top left 143 00:06:36,840 --> 00:06:33,580 and this image it's a red supergiant 144 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:36,850 star and what I talked about then was 145 00:06:40,230 --> 00:06:38,610 the fact that bail juice has been 146 00:06:41,820 --> 00:06:40,240 dimming okay 147 00:06:44,700 --> 00:06:41,830 on the left you see a picture from 148 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:44,710 February 2016 which is its normal 149 00:06:49,170 --> 00:06:47,050 brightness and on the right you see a 150 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:49,180 picture from December 2019 which is 151 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:51,930 aimed greatly reduced brightness and so 152 00:06:56,430 --> 00:06:54,610 fatal Jews had been dimming and people 153 00:06:59,249 --> 00:06:56,440 going oh my gosh is it gonna explode is 154 00:07:00,480 --> 00:06:59,259 it going to explode and no it's not 155 00:07:03,059 --> 00:07:00,490 gonna explode 156 00:07:06,029 --> 00:07:03,069 it didn't explode I showed at the time 157 00:07:09,570 --> 00:07:06,039 this graph here which has brightness on 158 00:07:11,490 --> 00:07:09,580 the y-axis and time on the x-axis and 159 00:07:14,309 --> 00:07:11,500 the green dots indicate the visible 160 00:07:18,210 --> 00:07:14,319 light observations of baitul Jews and it 161 00:07:21,029 --> 00:07:18,220 does vary up and down but in 2019 to 162 00:07:24,540 --> 00:07:21,039 2020 it drops significantly it dropped a 163 00:07:26,129 --> 00:07:24,550 full magnitude okay that's a factor of 164 00:07:29,430 --> 00:07:26,139 at least two and a half so it was down 165 00:07:32,100 --> 00:07:29,440 you know for T less than 40% of its 166 00:07:34,559 --> 00:07:32,110 normal brightness and at the time I said 167 00:07:36,719 --> 00:07:34,569 well you know it looks like it's a giant 168 00:07:39,450 --> 00:07:36,729 dust cloud that's blocking it and this 169 00:07:42,510 --> 00:07:39,460 should go away well just to update you 170 00:07:45,870 --> 00:07:42,520 on that here is the current plot and it 171 00:07:47,939 --> 00:07:45,880 shows that veil juice has indeed risen 172 00:07:51,149 --> 00:07:47,949 back up to its normal brightness okay so 173 00:07:53,310 --> 00:07:51,159 bail juice is back to normal it's not 174 00:07:57,020 --> 00:07:53,320 going supernova but when it does it's 175 00:07:59,010 --> 00:07:57,030 gonna be fantastic so stay tuned 176 00:08:04,379 --> 00:07:59,020 eventually we'll get to see Betelgeuse 177 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:04,389 go supernova just not in 2020 our third 178 00:08:11,459 --> 00:08:08,050 story is also about a star it's our star 179 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:11,469 the Sun and how it is actually arousing 180 00:08:19,980 --> 00:08:16,930 from its hibernation now the Sun usually 181 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:19,990 has sun spots on it right and on the 182 00:08:24,629 --> 00:08:22,210 left side of this video you can see the 183 00:08:27,659 --> 00:08:24,639 Sun during the month of November 2011 184 00:08:29,370 --> 00:08:27,669 and it has a large number of spots on it 185 00:08:32,100 --> 00:08:29,380 this is sort of what we expect out of 186 00:08:35,310 --> 00:08:32,110 the Sun to have a lot of sunspots on the 187 00:08:37,139 --> 00:08:35,320 right is the Sun from February 2019 and 188 00:08:39,180 --> 00:08:37,149 I know it doesn't look like it's 189 00:08:41,550 --> 00:08:39,190 actually a movie but it is it's actually 190 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:41,560 rotating just like the one on the left 191 00:08:49,199 --> 00:08:44,850 but during February 2019 there were no 192 00:08:52,949 --> 00:08:49,209 sunspots at all for the entire month the 193 00:08:54,020 --> 00:08:52,959 Sun has been quiet right and this is 194 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:54,030 normal because 195 00:08:58,760 --> 00:08:56,850 the Sun goes through a solar cycle it 196 00:09:00,500 --> 00:08:58,770 goes from minimum where it has no 197 00:09:03,380 --> 00:09:00,510 sunspots to maximum where it has its 198 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:03,390 greatest number of sunspots this image 199 00:09:10,490 --> 00:09:07,050 is from the Soho satellite and it shows 200 00:09:13,190 --> 00:09:10,500 the Sun in ultraviolet from 1996 every 201 00:09:16,220 --> 00:09:13,200 year through 2006 and you can see the 202 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:16,230 amount of solar activity rises and falls 203 00:09:22,330 --> 00:09:19,770 over this 11-year cycle well here's a 204 00:09:24,680 --> 00:09:22,340 plot to show you where we are in 2020 205 00:09:27,500 --> 00:09:24,690 we're just finishing what's called solar 206 00:09:30,740 --> 00:09:27,510 cycle 24 and you can see the number of 207 00:09:32,750 --> 00:09:30,750 sunspots peaked somewhere around 2014 208 00:09:36,290 --> 00:09:32,760 and has been falling ever since 209 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:36,300 matter of fact 2019 was a very very 210 00:09:43,100 --> 00:09:39,650 quiet year in the Sun there were over 211 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:43,110 100 days recently where the Sun did not 212 00:09:48,500 --> 00:09:46,050 have a single sunspot and so this is 213 00:09:50,420 --> 00:09:48,510 what we call solar minimum and we're 214 00:09:54,890 --> 00:09:50,430 waiting for the Sun to come out of the 215 00:09:58,100 --> 00:09:54,900 solar minimum this cycle however was 216 00:10:00,170 --> 00:09:58,110 also a relatively low cycle on the 217 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:00,180 series of cycles so we've been following 218 00:10:05,870 --> 00:10:02,730 sunspots for hundreds of years and you 219 00:10:08,560 --> 00:10:05,880 can see that current lately the highest 220 00:10:12,500 --> 00:10:08,570 cycle is around what about 1960 or so 221 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:12,510 there was a cyclo menace number of 222 00:10:18,590 --> 00:10:15,930 sunspots but cycle 24 doesn't seem to be 223 00:10:20,660 --> 00:10:18,600 that great and their red line by the way 224 00:10:24,410 --> 00:10:20,670 is the prediction that they expect for 225 00:10:26,570 --> 00:10:24,420 cycle 25 so we're waiting for it 226 00:10:31,130 --> 00:10:26,580 watching it to see is it going to come 227 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:31,140 out and on May 29th of this year the 228 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:34,050 Solar Dynamics Observatory got these 229 00:10:41,150 --> 00:10:38,730 images showing activity on the left on 230 00:10:43,490 --> 00:10:41,160 the upper left here of the Sun and you 231 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:43,500 can see that there's a wonderful amount 232 00:10:48,140 --> 00:10:45,930 of magnetic activity showing that hey 233 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:48,150 the Sun might be starting to come out of 234 00:10:52,790 --> 00:10:50,610 it does this mean that it's going to 235 00:10:55,460 --> 00:10:52,800 come out of it no it could just be an 236 00:10:58,250 --> 00:10:55,470 isolated region that go that comes and 237 00:11:00,920 --> 00:10:58,260 goes away um or it could be the start of 238 00:11:02,180 --> 00:11:00,930 cycle 25 which should begin relatively 239 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:02,190 soon 240 00:11:07,639 --> 00:11:04,530 it's just goes to show you that the Sun 241 00:11:11,119 --> 00:11:07,649 is not static the Sun goes through 242 00:11:13,670 --> 00:11:11,129 Changez and it's a wonderful process of 243 00:11:16,460 --> 00:11:13,680 science being able to sit and watch and 244 00:11:22,460 --> 00:11:16,470 study and explore those changes in our 245 00:11:25,609 --> 00:11:22,470 own star and now bring you to our 246 00:11:27,859 --> 00:11:25,619 featured speaker Benny Hill Huerta is 247 00:11:29,809 --> 00:11:27,869 currently at the Department of physics 248 00:11:33,530 --> 00:11:29,819 and astronomy at the University of 249 00:11:36,049 --> 00:11:33,540 Louisville he got his PhD at the 250 00:11:38,929 --> 00:11:36,059 University of Groningen in the 251 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:38,939 Netherlands and then he came to our 252 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:40,290 institution at the Space Telescope 253 00:11:46,819 --> 00:11:43,170 Science Institute and did a postdoc here 254 00:11:48,639 --> 00:11:46,829 for several years he has kind of been a 255 00:11:51,799 --> 00:11:48,649 world traveler in what he's done 256 00:11:52,549 --> 00:11:51,809 after the Netherlands and the United 257 00:11:55,819 --> 00:11:52,559 States 258 00:11:59,359 --> 00:11:55,829 he went to Cape Town he went to work for 259 00:12:02,989 --> 00:11:59,369 the European Space Agency he worked at 260 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:02,999 the Leiden University and then finally 261 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:05,490 he came back to the United States to his 262 00:12:09,470 --> 00:12:07,050 job at the University of Louisville 263 00:12:11,090 --> 00:12:09,480 about three years ago 264 00:12:13,129 --> 00:12:11,100 Bennie and I worked together a little 265 00:12:16,309 --> 00:12:13,139 bit while he was here he's a wonderful 266 00:12:18,079 --> 00:12:16,319 guy and I asked him for something 267 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:18,089 interesting and fun to tell about him 268 00:12:24,049 --> 00:12:21,569 and he said that he learned to fly a 269 00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:24,059 plane he has this pilot's license from 270 00:12:30,110 --> 00:12:27,600 another astronomer so he may exceed in 271 00:12:32,689 --> 00:12:30,120 flights of fancy not just in science but 272 00:12:37,100 --> 00:12:32,699 also actual flights so ladies and 273 00:12:40,759 --> 00:12:37,110 gentlemen dr. Benny Hill Huerta thank 274 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:40,769 you thank you very much 275 00:12:48,009 --> 00:12:44,970 I I'm trying to shift gears really 276 00:12:50,749 --> 00:12:48,019 quickly here thank you for having me I 277 00:12:55,489 --> 00:12:50,759 know Frank for a long time so as soon as 278 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:55,499 he said any volunteers me so I'm very 279 00:13:00,350 --> 00:12:57,120 glad to be talking to you here about 280 00:13:04,759 --> 00:13:00,360 Vera Rubin skelux see the phone number 281 00:13:07,489 --> 00:13:04,769 for that is UGC to 885 but we've been 282 00:13:10,879 --> 00:13:07,499 calling it Reubens galaxy since since 283 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:10,889 January and I don't do this alone far 284 00:13:14,030 --> 00:13:11,490 from it 285 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:14,040 I do this with Polly Chandra Pauline 286 00:13:18,019 --> 00:13:15,569 Barbie sat at Ford 287 00:13:20,569 --> 00:13:18,029 Jeremy Balin and Molly Peebles those are 288 00:13:21,380 --> 00:13:20,579 my collaborators at the beginning for 289 00:13:23,269 --> 00:13:21,390 this project 290 00:13:25,579 --> 00:13:23,279 and then we have a bunch of students 291 00:13:27,769 --> 00:13:25,589 working on this comics and bio show 292 00:13:30,110 --> 00:13:27,779 inaudible Alice Jack's and Ren Mullins 293 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:30,120 so it's it's a team effort that we've 294 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:31,050 been working with and I'm going to 295 00:13:35,509 --> 00:13:32,130 working with the Space Telescope Science 296 00:13:37,940 --> 00:13:35,519 Institute so the talk is kind of a 297 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:37,950 two-parter one I'll explain to you who 298 00:13:42,769 --> 00:13:40,170 the sphere Aruban person is first and 299 00:13:45,380 --> 00:13:42,779 then why we hopefully become clear why 300 00:13:46,850 --> 00:13:45,390 we wanted to name a galaxy we didn't 301 00:13:48,259 --> 00:13:46,860 officially name it because there are no 302 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:48,269 official names but there are lots of 303 00:13:53,750 --> 00:13:51,570 nicknames for galaxies so it's kind of 304 00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:53,760 now the unofficial nickname for this 305 00:13:58,670 --> 00:13:56,160 particular galaxy and if you actually 306 00:14:01,699 --> 00:13:58,680 want to talk to me later have a question 307 00:14:05,060 --> 00:14:01,709 feel free to either you know use Twitter 308 00:14:08,060 --> 00:14:05,070 or email to send me a question later so 309 00:14:13,449 --> 00:14:08,070 who is Vera Rubin via Rubin was one of 310 00:14:16,389 --> 00:14:13,459 the first was was an astronomer in 311 00:14:19,340 --> 00:14:16,399 California and she published one of two 312 00:14:21,829 --> 00:14:19,350 major findings that showed that dark 313 00:14:24,199 --> 00:14:21,839 matter in galaxies actually exists she 314 00:14:29,509 --> 00:14:24,209 looked at the rotation how fast galaxies 315 00:14:31,490 --> 00:14:29,519 rotate around using spectroscopy and she 316 00:14:34,689 --> 00:14:31,500 was one of the two people that advocated 317 00:14:37,310 --> 00:14:34,699 that these that these galaxies had 318 00:14:39,019 --> 00:14:37,320 things other than the stars that we can 319 00:14:41,180 --> 00:14:39,029 see and in the picture here you can see 320 00:14:42,889 --> 00:14:41,190 and I always look at these things and go 321 00:14:44,630 --> 00:14:42,899 like they must be staged because the 322 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:44,640 Lighting's so good and they're clearly 323 00:14:50,740 --> 00:14:47,610 not working in a shadowy observatory but 324 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:50,750 you can watch her here look examine 325 00:14:55,819 --> 00:14:53,850 photographs here but what she was mostly 326 00:14:58,189 --> 00:14:55,829 used for mostly known for a spectroscopy 327 00:15:00,680 --> 00:14:58,199 and the second thing and this is 328 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:00,690 something that is really I've 329 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:02,850 encountered her one time she was 330 00:15:07,370 --> 00:15:04,649 incredibly encouraging this is back in 331 00:15:09,439 --> 00:15:07,380 2005 I was finishing my PhD and so 332 00:15:12,350 --> 00:15:09,449 you're nervous and I was talking about 333 00:15:14,689 --> 00:15:12,360 my my topic and she goes oh wait hang on 334 00:15:16,939 --> 00:15:14,699 as she did dives into her bookcase comes 335 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:16,949 back out and says look Hubble was 336 00:15:21,740 --> 00:15:19,410 struggling with the same thing and I 337 00:15:25,100 --> 00:15:21,750 don't know just that's a that little 338 00:15:28,189 --> 00:15:25,110 push kind of really gets you through the 339 00:15:31,519 --> 00:15:28,199 last bits of a PhD and so she was and 340 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:31,529 and my story is far from unique in fact 341 00:15:35,360 --> 00:15:33,810 everybody I've talked to said that she 342 00:15:39,220 --> 00:15:35,370 was invariably 343 00:15:44,269 --> 00:15:39,230 encouraging and supportive of young 344 00:15:48,070 --> 00:15:44,279 young astronomers of any stripe to go go 345 00:15:52,310 --> 00:15:48,080 do science and she was a very impressive 346 00:15:54,380 --> 00:15:52,320 scientist and for these two 347 00:15:56,269 --> 00:15:54,390 characteristics so she was known for the 348 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:56,279 spectroscopy and I love this it's kind 349 00:16:00,829 --> 00:15:58,050 of like a more candid shot where they're 350 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:00,839 they're debugging their spectrograph at 351 00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:03,210 the back end of this large Lowell 352 00:16:10,220 --> 00:16:07,440 telescope and what she did mostly was 353 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:10,230 take spectra like these in spectra or 354 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:12,570 the fact that you take a point of light 355 00:16:16,550 --> 00:16:14,490 and you spread it around in wavelength 356 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:16,560 so then you can see the fingerprints of 357 00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:19,170 various chemical elements so for example 358 00:16:24,590 --> 00:16:21,360 at the bottom you see H which is 359 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:24,600 hydrogen and then alpha and beta I mean 360 00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:27,810 that they are different kinds of lines 361 00:16:34,220 --> 00:16:30,510 but the fingerprint of hydrogen is 362 00:16:36,860 --> 00:16:34,230 pretty clearly visible as is oxygen in 363 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:36,870 some of these some of these spectra that 364 00:16:41,329 --> 00:16:39,450 she's taken and the or I want to take 365 00:16:42,980 --> 00:16:41,339 take you to the orange line the orange 366 00:16:45,230 --> 00:16:42,990 line is where we expect hydrogen to have 367 00:16:47,180 --> 00:16:45,240 made a lot light and then you'll notice 368 00:16:48,829 --> 00:16:47,190 that some of the smudges are a little 369 00:16:50,990 --> 00:16:48,839 bit to the right they're red shifted 370 00:16:52,220 --> 00:16:51,000 they're in longer wavelengths and some 371 00:16:54,410 --> 00:16:52,230 of them are a little bit to the blue 372 00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:54,420 side they're blue shifted so this is 373 00:16:59,150 --> 00:16:55,650 what happens when the Doppler effect 374 00:17:00,650 --> 00:16:59,160 takes effect if something's moving if 375 00:17:03,740 --> 00:17:00,660 it's moving towards you the wavelength 376 00:17:06,350 --> 00:17:03,750 gets shorter the pitch gets higher you 377 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:06,360 there blue shifted and if they're moving 378 00:17:10,549 --> 00:17:08,370 away from you the pitch gets lower their 379 00:17:13,990 --> 00:17:10,559 red shifted so we've been looking you 380 00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:14,000 can see movement using spectroscopy and 381 00:17:20,090 --> 00:17:17,130 very carefully they did this for our 382 00:17:21,500 --> 00:17:20,100 nearest neighboring galaxy Andromeda you 383 00:17:23,540 --> 00:17:21,510 can see the photographic plates on the 384 00:17:27,319 --> 00:17:23,550 left here with all the points that they 385 00:17:29,690 --> 00:17:27,329 took a velocity measure of and then on 386 00:17:33,710 --> 00:17:29,700 the right you can see the distance to 387 00:17:36,710 --> 00:17:33,720 the center of Andromeda and how fast 388 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:36,720 it's moving away from us it's all moving 389 00:17:41,030 --> 00:17:39,330 away from us but it's moving at relative 390 00:17:42,590 --> 00:17:41,040 speeds so some of them are moving 391 00:17:44,780 --> 00:17:42,600 towards us and some of them are moving 392 00:17:47,270 --> 00:17:44,790 away from us in fact as you plot 393 00:17:48,750 --> 00:17:47,280 everything along this line you'll notice 394 00:17:50,700 --> 00:17:48,760 that all of on once 395 00:17:52,919 --> 00:17:50,710 of the galaxy our redshift they're 396 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:52,929 moving away and on the other side 397 00:17:57,990 --> 00:17:55,210 they're all moving towards us so 398 00:18:00,419 --> 00:17:58,000 Andromeda is rotating and not only is 399 00:18:03,570 --> 00:18:00,429 Andromeda rotating you sort of expected 400 00:18:06,930 --> 00:18:03,580 that but it's an it's rotating and the 401 00:18:10,980 --> 00:18:06,940 speed that which all the bits are going 402 00:18:12,990 --> 00:18:10,990 are is roughly the same this no matter 403 00:18:14,909 --> 00:18:13,000 how far out from the centre you go 404 00:18:17,940 --> 00:18:14,919 you'll notice that it's fairly flat 405 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:17,950 they're all kind of going at the 300 406 00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:21,490 kilometers a second speed in the 407 00:18:26,100 --> 00:18:22,960 redshift and they're all going to match 408 00:18:28,230 --> 00:18:26,110 to between two and 300 in the blue shift 409 00:18:30,330 --> 00:18:28,240 but it doesn't quite matter how far away 410 00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:30,340 from the centre you are now if you find 411 00:18:33,630 --> 00:18:31,840 this in one galaxy if you find something 412 00:18:36,210 --> 00:18:33,640 strange in one galaxy you can kind of 413 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:36,220 write it off and say I guess that 414 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:38,530 galaxy's just strange and move on with 415 00:18:42,950 --> 00:18:41,530 your life and because you know that all 416 00:18:47,970 --> 00:18:42,960 the galaxies don't behave like that 417 00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:47,980 however at the same time and these the 418 00:18:50,100 --> 00:18:49,390 groups were definitely talking to each 419 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:50,110 other 420 00:18:56,010 --> 00:18:52,510 the Westerbork radio telescope was taken 421 00:18:57,750 --> 00:18:56,020 into operation Ron Allen my PhD 422 00:19:00,810 --> 00:18:57,760 supervisor was intimately involved in 423 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:00,820 that and they were also looking for 424 00:19:04,950 --> 00:19:02,890 hydrogen the imprint of hydrogen but in 425 00:19:07,409 --> 00:19:04,960 the radio and in the radio you can meet 426 00:19:09,930 --> 00:19:07,419 but you can also measure Doppler shifts 427 00:19:12,299 --> 00:19:09,940 so they did the exact same experiment on 428 00:19:14,430 --> 00:19:12,309 different galaxies so here's an example 429 00:19:17,100 --> 00:19:14,440 NGC 47:36 430 00:19:19,830 --> 00:19:17,110 another phone number we haven't named 431 00:19:21,780 --> 00:19:19,840 this one but as you go further and 432 00:19:24,630 --> 00:19:21,790 further out from the center of the 433 00:19:26,970 --> 00:19:24,640 galaxy you'll notice that the gas moves 434 00:19:30,060 --> 00:19:26,980 with about the same speed in this case 435 00:19:32,730 --> 00:19:30,070 it's almost 200 kilometres a second and 436 00:19:38,159 --> 00:19:32,740 it roughly stays pretty flat no matter 437 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:38,169 how far out you go and that is kind of 438 00:19:43,049 --> 00:19:40,210 surprising because if you put if you 439 00:19:44,310 --> 00:19:43,059 assume that all the mass is associated 440 00:19:46,860 --> 00:19:44,320 with all the stuff that gives off a 441 00:19:49,650 --> 00:19:46,870 light which it is true in our own solar 442 00:19:52,590 --> 00:19:49,660 system for example you'd expect the 443 00:19:56,250 --> 00:19:52,600 dashed line here if we just say all the 444 00:19:57,539 --> 00:19:56,260 mass that's in there that's although 445 00:19:59,430 --> 00:19:57,549 that's all the stuff that's in this 446 00:20:01,560 --> 00:19:59,440 galaxy and if I'm looking at something 447 00:20:02,500 --> 00:20:01,570 that's orbiting around it it can't go 448 00:20:04,780 --> 00:20:02,510 any faster 449 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:04,790 than say on 30,000 light years out it 450 00:20:08,530 --> 00:20:06,770 can't go any faster than 50 kilometres a 451 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:08,540 second because otherwise it would fly 452 00:20:13,450 --> 00:20:10,490 off otherwise there's just not enough 453 00:20:15,580 --> 00:20:13,460 stuff within it to keep it pulling into 454 00:20:17,380 --> 00:20:15,590 its orbit and yet we look at the 455 00:20:19,420 --> 00:20:17,390 observations we look at the blue points 456 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:19,430 for example from Radio and we look at 457 00:20:25,570 --> 00:20:22,970 the yellow points from starlight they're 458 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:25,580 going much faster than they should be 459 00:20:30,340 --> 00:20:28,010 able to and this flat the fact that it's 460 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:30,350 flat means that there is more and more 461 00:20:33,940 --> 00:20:31,970 things despite the fact that the amount 462 00:20:36,790 --> 00:20:33,950 of stars seem to drop off pretty quickly 463 00:20:39,550 --> 00:20:36,800 there has to be more stuff there just to 464 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:39,560 keep the gas from you wrote from flying 465 00:20:44,500 --> 00:20:42,010 off as it's rotating around the disk and 466 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:44,510 so that's a bit of a mystery you have to 467 00:20:50,410 --> 00:20:46,130 have something that isn't stars isn't 468 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:50,420 gas isn't giving off light and we don't 469 00:20:53,740 --> 00:20:51,010 know what it is 470 00:20:57,310 --> 00:20:53,750 hence dark matter and this was the best 471 00:21:01,090 --> 00:20:57,320 evidence for dark matter and as we just 472 00:21:02,980 --> 00:21:01,100 to compare if like we look at our own 473 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:02,990 solar system 90% of all the masses in 474 00:21:08,350 --> 00:21:06,290 the Sun so everything rotates around the 475 00:21:10,510 --> 00:21:08,360 main mass which is essentially all in 476 00:21:12,850 --> 00:21:10,520 the Sun and so if you're close by you 477 00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:12,860 whip around it and as you go further and 478 00:21:18,370 --> 00:21:15,200 further out you go slower and longer 479 00:21:20,890 --> 00:21:18,380 orbits so in Pluto take is only going at 480 00:21:23,830 --> 00:21:20,900 10 kilometers a second or less and then 481 00:21:27,310 --> 00:21:23,840 mercury is whipping around there with 45 482 00:21:31,150 --> 00:21:27,320 kilometers a second so and even if you 483 00:21:34,120 --> 00:21:31,160 look at the top here so you can go look 484 00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:34,130 from above you see like the solar system 485 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:35,600 you see the movement going on the 486 00:21:39,670 --> 00:21:37,730 left-hand side and like the way the 487 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:39,680 galaxies move is on the right-hand side 488 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:42,890 and you can see that galaxies don't move 489 00:21:48,370 --> 00:21:45,050 like the solar system does we are 490 00:21:51,870 --> 00:21:48,380 definitely in trouble our galaxy despite 491 00:21:54,490 --> 00:21:51,880 looking like a giant ball of stars with 492 00:21:57,700 --> 00:21:54,500 just some stuff swirling around it is 493 00:22:00,880 --> 00:21:57,710 not moving like the solar system is so 494 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:00,890 the mass is distributed differently so 495 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:03,050 galaxies don't rotate like a solid disc 496 00:22:10,540 --> 00:22:07,730 I love the example of a clay spinner 497 00:22:12,550 --> 00:22:10,550 because we used to say record-player but 498 00:22:14,380 --> 00:22:12,560 I don't think anybody knows where the 499 00:22:15,970 --> 00:22:14,390 record player is anymore except for some 500 00:22:19,360 --> 00:22:15,980 audio files 501 00:22:20,890 --> 00:22:19,370 and so maybe you've done this and you'll 502 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:20,900 notice that if you put the clay further 503 00:22:26,350 --> 00:22:24,290 out it'll definitely spin off the of the 504 00:22:28,090 --> 00:22:26,360 wheel so a pottery wheel you have to put 505 00:22:31,210 --> 00:22:28,100 it right in the center but as you go 506 00:22:33,550 --> 00:22:31,220 further out it's moving quicker and if 507 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:33,560 you they don't grow tracked like the 508 00:22:36,580 --> 00:22:35,090 planets around her son either so 509 00:22:39,130 --> 00:22:36,590 something in between it's something 510 00:22:41,260 --> 00:22:39,140 between a solid disc and putting 511 00:22:44,740 --> 00:22:41,270 everything in the center which is 512 00:22:47,050 --> 00:22:44,750 strange right so this was a this was 513 00:22:48,790 --> 00:22:47,060 definitely a bold claim to say like well 514 00:22:52,420 --> 00:22:48,800 most of the mass doesn't glow up isn't 515 00:22:58,840 --> 00:22:52,430 sitting in stars and this is the seminal 516 00:23:01,870 --> 00:22:58,850 study from Rubin in 1980 the 1977 or 78 517 00:23:03,730 --> 00:23:01,880 78 Albert boss ma produced something 518 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:03,740 very similar so basically these both 519 00:23:08,380 --> 00:23:06,290 these groups had plots like this where 520 00:23:10,630 --> 00:23:08,390 you go from the center of the galaxy and 521 00:23:12,790 --> 00:23:10,640 each line here is a galaxy so instead of 522 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:12,800 saying well I guess Andromeda is just 523 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:15,650 strange let's go check it in other 524 00:23:19,210 --> 00:23:17,090 galaxies and see if they do the same 525 00:23:21,340 --> 00:23:19,220 thing and they do they all sort of 526 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:21,350 flatten out to further out you go they 527 00:23:27,340 --> 00:23:25,010 go up really steeply the velocity whips 528 00:23:29,710 --> 00:23:27,350 up and then it just flattens out and 529 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:29,720 stays there and and the further out you 530 00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:32,510 go you just it still stays at pretty 531 00:23:36,610 --> 00:23:34,880 much the lot of the rotational or the 532 00:23:38,470 --> 00:23:36,620 velocity here that you see so they're 533 00:23:39,790 --> 00:23:38,480 all flat and one of them kind of sticks 534 00:23:43,690 --> 00:23:39,800 out because it's right at the top and 535 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:43,700 that's you GC to 885 other than that the 536 00:23:47,770 --> 00:23:46,010 fact that it has the fastest rotation in 537 00:23:50,350 --> 00:23:47,780 her study it doesn't really stand out 538 00:23:53,260 --> 00:23:50,360 it's a normal spiral galaxy it's got 539 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:53,270 that lovely flat rotation curve and 540 00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:54,490 that's it 541 00:24:00,400 --> 00:23:57,410 of course we check each other's work 542 00:24:03,220 --> 00:24:00,410 we're good good conscientious scientists 543 00:24:05,890 --> 00:24:03,230 so as soon as one group claimed hey this 544 00:24:07,690 --> 00:24:05,900 galaxies rotating flatly we'll going to 545 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:07,700 go check that with the radio telescopes 546 00:24:11,290 --> 00:24:09,290 and the radio telescope results were 547 00:24:13,510 --> 00:24:11,300 checked with spectroscopy so the 548 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:13,520 rotation curves were confirmed for this 549 00:24:19,180 --> 00:24:15,530 particular galaxy right after well 550 00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:19,190 pretty quickly after 1980 and so they're 551 00:24:23,710 --> 00:24:21,200 all agreeing that yes this galaxy 552 00:24:25,570 --> 00:24:23,720 rotates between 250 and 300 kilometers a 553 00:24:27,190 --> 00:24:25,580 second doesn't matter how far out you go 554 00:24:28,270 --> 00:24:27,200 you can keep going keep going keep going 555 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:28,280 it's just 556 00:24:35,110 --> 00:24:31,610 locates at that speed so very 557 00:24:37,390 --> 00:24:35,120 interesting cool result galaxies don't 558 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:37,400 grow Tate like solid disks they don't 559 00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:41,090 grow Tate like our solar system and that 560 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:43,360 comes to the spiderman rule of science 561 00:24:48,430 --> 00:24:45,650 extraordinary claims basically saying 562 00:24:49,570 --> 00:24:48,440 all the mass isn't sitting in stars it's 563 00:24:52,030 --> 00:24:49,580 sitting somewhere else 564 00:24:54,940 --> 00:24:52,040 they require extraordinary evidence not 565 00:24:57,490 --> 00:24:54,950 a single galaxy multiple galaxies not a 566 00:24:59,740 --> 00:24:57,500 single kind of telescopes multiple 567 00:25:02,290 --> 00:24:59,750 different telescopes not a single group 568 00:25:05,460 --> 00:25:02,300 both groups find the same thing and so 569 00:25:07,690 --> 00:25:05,470 it's an amazing discovery by the various 570 00:25:11,740 --> 00:25:07,700 scientists of the time like this was 571 00:25:13,780 --> 00:25:11,750 this took very careful work and so that 572 00:25:16,180 --> 00:25:13,790 finally cleared the threshold of saying 573 00:25:19,710 --> 00:25:16,190 like yes there has to be some additional 574 00:25:23,410 --> 00:25:19,720 ingredient whenever we bake a galaxy so 575 00:25:25,210 --> 00:25:23,420 the spider-man rule was a was it here 576 00:25:27,940 --> 00:25:25,220 too but what he says all have to do with 577 00:25:30,580 --> 00:25:27,950 the Hubble Space Telescope nothing so 578 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:30,590 far all of this was done in the 1970s 579 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:32,290 when the Hubble Space Telescope was a 580 00:25:39,490 --> 00:25:36,170 was a dream of the early of the early 581 00:25:41,590 --> 00:25:39,500 pioneers like Nancy Roman and they were 582 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:41,600 looking at how to build one of these 583 00:25:46,540 --> 00:25:44,330 things and I one of my favorite things 584 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:46,550 of the Hubble Space Telescope history is 585 00:25:50,830 --> 00:25:48,890 they used to have a drawing with a 586 00:25:51,340 --> 00:25:50,840 little astronaut in the back of this 587 00:25:54,190 --> 00:25:51,350 thing 588 00:25:57,210 --> 00:25:54,200 changing out photographic plates like he 589 00:25:59,500 --> 00:25:57,220 is you know Vera Rubin but now in space 590 00:26:01,390 --> 00:25:59,510 I'm so glad they don't do that because 591 00:26:03,340 --> 00:26:01,400 we don't visit the Space Telescope 592 00:26:08,140 --> 00:26:03,350 anymore and that would be very unhappy 593 00:26:10,030 --> 00:26:08,150 astronaut but there's a Hubble Space 594 00:26:12,790 --> 00:26:10,040 Telescope this is where it comes in 595 00:26:16,510 --> 00:26:12,800 because Vera Rubin wrote two papers in 596 00:26:18,430 --> 00:26:16,520 1980 and I read the second one and so 597 00:26:19,870 --> 00:26:18,440 the one is on the rotation curves in 598 00:26:23,470 --> 00:26:19,880 dark matter it's the one that we all 599 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:23,480 look at and it's the seminal result and 600 00:26:27,670 --> 00:26:25,010 the other one kind of just notes that 601 00:26:29,500 --> 00:26:27,680 this particular galaxy is really big 602 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:29,510 compared to all the others that we know 603 00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:32,930 of and so this is a picture from that 604 00:26:39,580 --> 00:26:37,520 other 1980 paper where you see m81 605 00:26:41,230 --> 00:26:39,590 that's a very well known spiral galaxy 606 00:26:41,770 --> 00:26:41,240 our own Milky Way the roots back 607 00:26:44,410 --> 00:26:41,780 twenty-five 608 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:44,420 kiloparsecs in diameter and 51 it's a 609 00:26:51,010 --> 00:26:47,210 bit bigger 35 kiloparsecs in diameter 610 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:51,020 mm 104 is to sombrero galaxy it's 40 611 00:26:55,930 --> 00:26:53,570 kiloparsecs in diameter and 31 the one 612 00:26:59,880 --> 00:26:55,940 Andromeda galaxy 50 kilobytes in 613 00:27:03,430 --> 00:26:59,890 diameter and M 101 is our is another 614 00:27:06,940 --> 00:27:03,440 crowd pleaser this lovely face on spiral 615 00:27:09,580 --> 00:27:06,950 galaxy and it's 65 kiloparsecs roughly 616 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:09,590 in diameter what she noted was that it's 617 00:27:15,220 --> 00:27:11,690 joining 50 kilometer field parsecs in 618 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:15,230 diameter for UGC 285 so that galaxy is 619 00:27:20,710 --> 00:27:18,530 really really big except that it looks 620 00:27:23,380 --> 00:27:20,720 like it's rotating like any other galaxy 621 00:27:26,260 --> 00:27:23,390 it's just all the way at the top it just 622 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:26,270 seems to be well-behaved spiral galaxy 623 00:27:33,310 --> 00:27:31,610 just really really large and so what I 624 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:33,320 noticed when I was looking at this idly 625 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:35,570 and like huh well we've got a nice 626 00:27:41,710 --> 00:27:38,690 Hubble picture for M 81 and 51 m 104 627 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:41,720 we've got like a third of him 31 and we 628 00:27:46,030 --> 00:27:44,210 got all of them 101 so we have beautiful 629 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:46,040 Hubble pictures for all of these 630 00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:51,170 galaxies except for UGC 8 to 885 so why 631 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:53,360 wouldn't it be a good idea to go look at 632 00:27:57,850 --> 00:27:55,090 the biggest spiral in the local universe 633 00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:57,860 let's go have a look at that and see if 634 00:28:02,020 --> 00:27:59,840 we can figure out how you make something 635 00:28:04,030 --> 00:28:02,030 that big how you make a disk that big so 636 00:28:07,270 --> 00:28:04,040 that's the that's the result that we did 637 00:28:10,450 --> 00:28:07,280 this is the this is the Hubble picture 638 00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:10,460 of Rubens galaxy and the other idea was 639 00:28:15,820 --> 00:28:12,200 to use it as a little tribute picture 640 00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:15,830 for Vera Rubin who passed away in 2016 641 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:19,520 so you can see a lot more detail of 642 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:21,710 course in the Hubble picture we have we 643 00:28:28,690 --> 00:28:24,890 opted for a color option and and so you 644 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:28,700 can see all the the various yeah the 645 00:28:32,770 --> 00:28:30,770 components for a spiral galaxy you see 646 00:28:36,340 --> 00:28:32,780 the Bulge in the center you see the disk 647 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:36,350 you see the spiral arms and yeah I'll 648 00:28:43,930 --> 00:28:37,850 just take you through this Hubble 649 00:28:47,740 --> 00:28:43,940 picture now first oh where can you find 650 00:28:49,390 --> 00:28:47,750 this and this isn't a question I always 651 00:28:50,820 --> 00:28:49,400 get from the amateur astronomers here in 652 00:28:54,340 --> 00:28:50,830 Louisville we have a very active group 653 00:28:55,549 --> 00:28:54,350 and you can see this with binoculars or 654 00:28:58,279 --> 00:28:55,559 a decent 655 00:29:04,370 --> 00:28:58,289 amateur telescope or enthusiastic 656 00:29:05,750 --> 00:29:04,380 telescope and it's in Percy's and so you 657 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:05,760 see all the stuff all the Milky Way 658 00:29:12,310 --> 00:29:08,250 stars here there's a there's a warrior 659 00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:12,320 and I should go through words whose foot 660 00:29:18,350 --> 00:29:15,840 you can start seeing some smudges and 661 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:18,360 then they did this lovely fade here as 662 00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:22,650 we go to a modern picture and here we 663 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:24,510 are with the Hubble picture so it's a 664 00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,690 pretty small smudge on the sky but you 665 00:29:31,580 --> 00:29:29,520 can't actually see it and you can 666 00:29:33,230 --> 00:29:31,590 actually see the house blue edges it's a 667 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:33,240 little trickier to see because of that 668 00:29:38,690 --> 00:29:35,850 bright star and a floor ground there but 669 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:38,700 you can definitely find it with with the 670 00:29:43,010 --> 00:29:40,890 telescope and binoculars so how do we 671 00:29:45,169 --> 00:29:43,020 grow giant like this big 672 00:29:49,399 --> 00:29:45,179 Ruben's galaxy is so much more massive 673 00:29:52,039 --> 00:29:49,409 it's 10 to 12 so a trillion solar mass 674 00:29:54,169 --> 00:29:52,049 and stars and it's much more extended 675 00:29:56,419 --> 00:29:54,179 than any typical spiral galaxy certainly 676 00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:56,429 the ones that we typically look at with 677 00:30:00,350 --> 00:29:58,890 Hubble or other other telescopes the 678 00:30:03,649 --> 00:30:00,360 question now is like how do you grow 679 00:30:07,610 --> 00:30:03,659 this disk so large typically if we want 680 00:30:09,409 --> 00:30:07,620 to get a trillion solar mass galaxies we 681 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:09,419 just smash two smaller galaxies and 682 00:30:13,460 --> 00:30:11,490 maybe throw a third one in and then we 683 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:13,470 end up with within two small solar 684 00:30:20,270 --> 00:30:16,010 masses and usually they're in a giant 685 00:30:22,990 --> 00:30:20,280 blob they're an elliptical and mergers 686 00:30:27,500 --> 00:30:23,000 leave a mark and this is such a regular 687 00:30:30,289 --> 00:30:27,510 undisturbed looking galaxy that we would 688 00:30:32,450 --> 00:30:30,299 it's strange to not see any merger 689 00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:32,460 remnants but maybe we can see that in 690 00:30:36,890 --> 00:30:34,289 the population of globular clusters in 691 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:36,900 around this galaxy and so that's the one 692 00:30:42,380 --> 00:30:38,610 that we that's the science we wanted to 693 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:42,390 do with this picture and so I stuck the 694 00:30:45,620 --> 00:30:44,370 the result in because I'm gonna tell you 695 00:30:46,940 --> 00:30:45,630 about the result and then could tell you 696 00:30:49,940 --> 00:30:46,950 how we got there and then I'm going to 697 00:30:52,010 --> 00:30:49,950 tell you the result again we see very 698 00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:52,020 few globular clusters for galaxies this 699 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:53,760 size so it actually implies that it 700 00:31:00,020 --> 00:30:56,250 didn't do any merging dude didn't do 701 00:31:02,060 --> 00:31:00,030 much mergers I love the fact that as 702 00:31:05,899 --> 00:31:02,070 soon as Hubble releases a picture people 703 00:31:08,940 --> 00:31:05,909 have have a go at doing creative things 704 00:31:11,430 --> 00:31:08,950 with it and so with this picture 705 00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:11,440 love this 3d issue view I've no idea how 706 00:31:16,350 --> 00:31:15,039 people did this but it does kind of show 707 00:31:18,990 --> 00:31:16,360 you that we're looking at a 708 00:31:20,940 --> 00:31:19,000 three-dimensional structure we are not 709 00:31:22,620 --> 00:31:20,950 just looking at the stars at which the 710 00:31:24,419 --> 00:31:22,630 bright stars are all in the Milky Way 711 00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:24,429 anything with those DOS those 712 00:31:29,759 --> 00:31:26,529 diffraction spikes those spiky things 713 00:31:32,009 --> 00:31:29,769 are coming out they are definitely in 714 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:32,019 our own Milky Way and then we get this 715 00:31:36,060 --> 00:31:33,970 big galaxy and then in the background 716 00:31:39,419 --> 00:31:36,070 you see these only smaller galaxies and 717 00:31:42,899 --> 00:31:39,429 so you kind of see the whole universe in 718 00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:42,909 a little slice there and so here we were 719 00:31:47,220 --> 00:31:44,769 back at the actual picture and I'll take 720 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:47,230 you through the various components so 721 00:31:52,169 --> 00:31:49,450 I'll start with the center and so the 722 00:31:55,259 --> 00:31:52,179 center is it's quite interesting because 723 00:31:58,889 --> 00:31:55,269 we see a lot of dust here and brown 724 00:32:01,409 --> 00:31:58,899 stuff that those dark veiny looking 725 00:32:04,740 --> 00:32:01,419 things that are spiral that are swirling 726 00:32:08,250 --> 00:32:04,750 throughout this disk they are their 727 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:08,260 their molecular gas and dust and I 728 00:32:11,970 --> 00:32:10,090 started my career studying dust in 729 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:11,980 galaxies so I'm super excited to see a 730 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:13,570 beautiful example like this you see that 731 00:32:17,789 --> 00:32:15,250 I kind of Tiger stripy pattern in 732 00:32:19,769 --> 00:32:17,799 between there's clearly a lot going on 733 00:32:22,139 --> 00:32:19,779 here but not only that we can see the 734 00:32:24,990 --> 00:32:22,149 blue peeking in between and the blue 735 00:32:27,419 --> 00:32:25,000 means young recently formed massive 736 00:32:29,970 --> 00:32:27,429 stars so we see that this galaxy is 737 00:32:33,539 --> 00:32:29,980 forming stars almost all the way to the 738 00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:33,549 center of it and it has gas reserves to 739 00:32:38,519 --> 00:32:35,590 do that and it's so you see blue new 740 00:32:40,710 --> 00:32:38,529 young blue stars and new gas sitting 741 00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:40,720 ready to go and so you've got both of 742 00:32:47,009 --> 00:32:43,720 those mixed together throughout the disk 743 00:32:49,110 --> 00:32:47,019 so there's star formation isn't going on 744 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:49,120 at any particular point it is just 745 00:32:55,259 --> 00:32:51,730 spread out through of this entire giant 746 00:32:58,110 --> 00:32:55,269 disk of gal this galaxies no particulars 747 00:33:01,639 --> 00:32:58,120 a lot of star formation but almost all 748 00:33:05,909 --> 00:33:01,649 parts of the disk seems to have some and 749 00:33:08,519 --> 00:33:05,919 there's our it does make the picture 750 00:33:11,070 --> 00:33:08,529 quite photogenic but as an astronomer I 751 00:33:13,889 --> 00:33:11,080 kind of wish that I could wipe this 752 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:13,899 thing off for a little bit because we 753 00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:15,010 kind of would like to see what's 754 00:33:18,180 --> 00:33:17,289 underneath but unfortunately we can't do 755 00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,190 that 756 00:33:22,470 --> 00:33:20,320 there's there's no information below 757 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:22,480 this this really bright star 758 00:33:25,950 --> 00:33:24,130 and I think that's the reason why we 759 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:25,960 didn't look at it before with Hubble 760 00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:27,610 because we're a little nervous 761 00:33:33,030 --> 00:33:29,980 pointing Hubble at bright things just in 762 00:33:35,070 --> 00:33:33,040 case we damaged their camera but I want 763 00:33:37,740 --> 00:33:35,080 to point out that these spiral arms are 764 00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:37,750 made out of still more blue stars still 765 00:33:43,140 --> 00:33:40,710 the occasional oh and B type star 766 00:33:45,419 --> 00:33:43,150 brightly shining as it's just been 767 00:33:47,970 --> 00:33:45,429 formed and there's these little clusters 768 00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:47,980 of them all throughout these spiral arms 769 00:33:52,380 --> 00:33:50,830 there's they're beautiful but it also 770 00:33:55,260 --> 00:33:52,390 means that this galaxy it's never really 771 00:33:59,880 --> 00:33:55,270 stopped forming new stars but it does it 772 00:34:01,549 --> 00:33:59,890 at a very gentle pace and whipping 773 00:34:03,990 --> 00:34:01,559 around to the other side of the image 774 00:34:06,510 --> 00:34:04,000 these are the background of galaxies so 775 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:06,520 we see the front foreground elliptical I 776 00:34:12,899 --> 00:34:10,210 started the foreground Milky Way stars 777 00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:12,909 with the spikes and in the background 778 00:34:17,490 --> 00:34:15,250 objects like this elliptical galaxies 779 00:34:20,430 --> 00:34:17,500 kind of lurking in the corner that 780 00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:20,440 galaxies very far away it has nothing to 781 00:34:26,609 --> 00:34:24,850 do with Rubens galaxy at all and there's 782 00:34:28,139 --> 00:34:26,619 even more distant galaxies that you 783 00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:28,149 could kind of spot here throughout the 784 00:34:33,030 --> 00:34:31,330 image and I started again started my 785 00:34:35,220 --> 00:34:33,040 career looking at dust started my career 786 00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:35,230 looking at the background images this is 787 00:34:39,060 --> 00:34:36,850 what I was looking for these tiny little 788 00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:39,070 smudges so every time I get a Hubble 789 00:34:42,810 --> 00:34:41,230 image I I again go there's one there's 790 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:42,820 one I'm not gonna do anything but 791 00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:46,450 there's one but what we were looking for 792 00:34:52,590 --> 00:34:48,609 here you see a few of these little red 793 00:34:54,210 --> 00:34:52,600 dots those are the some of them are 794 00:34:56,250 --> 00:34:54,220 still foreground stars so we have to 795 00:34:58,349 --> 00:34:56,260 select those out some of them are back 796 00:35:02,040 --> 00:34:58,359 are parts of background galaxies but 797 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:02,050 really there is a few round you see a 798 00:35:05,250 --> 00:35:03,970 few round dots here and those are the 799 00:35:08,910 --> 00:35:05,260 globe of the clusters floating around 800 00:35:11,220 --> 00:35:08,920 this giant spiral so there's lots of 801 00:35:14,390 --> 00:35:11,230 detail there's lots of information in 802 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:14,400 apart from just being a gorgeous picture 803 00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:17,770 we can see the four spiral arms we can 804 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:19,630 see that the star formation happening 805 00:35:23,849 --> 00:35:21,250 throughout the disk we see that it has 806 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:23,859 lots of fuel to keep doing this and we 807 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:26,650 can see that it has costs are floating 808 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:28,930 around it and so the clusters is the 809 00:35:32,820 --> 00:35:30,010 ones that are the things that were after 810 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:32,830 I'll give you a quick look because the 811 00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:35,170 picture does not come off looking like 812 00:35:39,450 --> 00:35:36,130 that 813 00:35:42,620 --> 00:35:39,460 it comes off as black-and-white pictures 814 00:35:45,390 --> 00:35:42,630 and here's the our observation design 815 00:35:48,180 --> 00:35:45,400 Hubble has two main cameras the Wide 816 00:35:49,710 --> 00:35:48,190 Field Camera 3 and the advanced camera 817 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:49,720 for surveys the advanced camera for 818 00:35:57,240 --> 00:35:53,770 surveys went on in 2005 so it is now 15 819 00:35:57,840 --> 00:35:57,250 years old and with the three is a little 820 00:35:59,970 --> 00:35:57,850 younger 821 00:36:04,170 --> 00:35:59,980 it went on the last servicing mission so 822 00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:04,180 you can take pictures at the same time 823 00:36:08,190 --> 00:36:06,160 so we took the the main picture that's 824 00:36:10,530 --> 00:36:08,200 the green triangle so this is a great 825 00:36:12,750 --> 00:36:10,540 Green Square here that's that's where 826 00:36:14,730 --> 00:36:12,760 the the galaxy is but we also are 827 00:36:16,380 --> 00:36:14,740 looking for love of the clusters very 828 00:36:18,660 --> 00:36:16,390 much further away from the galaxy itself 829 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:18,670 using the advanced camera for surveys so 830 00:36:23,550 --> 00:36:21,210 we have more information on this galaxy 831 00:36:26,250 --> 00:36:23,560 it doesn't come out very pretty the 832 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:26,260 first time I tried to do this the camera 833 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:29,290 is still quite a line I got diffraction 834 00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:31,210 spikes from the bright stars I've got 835 00:36:35,910 --> 00:36:33,370 secondary reflections mirror there's a 836 00:36:37,770 --> 00:36:35,920 chip gap so with the help from the 837 00:36:40,230 --> 00:36:37,780 wonderful people at Space Telescope we 838 00:36:42,210 --> 00:36:40,240 cleaned it up some and they and they 839 00:36:44,010 --> 00:36:42,220 just get the stretch just right so that 840 00:36:46,140 --> 00:36:44,020 you can see that both the bright stuff 841 00:36:50,310 --> 00:36:46,150 and the faint stuff at the same time I 842 00:36:52,290 --> 00:36:50,320 do kind of love how you can stretch that 843 00:36:54,270 --> 00:36:52,300 right and so this is a black-and-white 844 00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:54,280 picture you get and you get that in 845 00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:57,310 three filters so you get it in blue you 846 00:37:01,530 --> 00:36:59,170 get it in green and you get it in red 847 00:37:06,300 --> 00:37:01,540 and then you combine the three of them 848 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:06,310 two into a red green blue RGB image and 849 00:37:12,570 --> 00:37:08,130 so that's how you can get a color image 850 00:37:14,490 --> 00:37:12,580 so we have blue isn't quite blue green 851 00:37:17,370 --> 00:37:14,500 isn't quite green and red is a little 852 00:37:20,340 --> 00:37:17,380 bit near-infrared but they are as close 853 00:37:23,550 --> 00:37:20,350 as our eye perceives these colors so 854 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:23,560 they're real - as real as I can make 855 00:37:30,330 --> 00:37:27,610 them and so we have the big image 856 00:37:33,180 --> 00:37:30,340 release at the American Astronomical 857 00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:33,190 Society meeting in January this is back 858 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:34,750 when they still let us out of the house 859 00:37:41,130 --> 00:37:38,890 and it was quite exciting to share this 860 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:41,140 with the world and share just something 861 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:44,770 pretty and but we also talked some 862 00:37:47,730 --> 00:37:46,090 science and all the things that we can 863 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:47,740 do with it and it's really fun when you 864 00:37:52,050 --> 00:37:49,570 actually meet people in person 865 00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:52,060 then class are collaborating with them 866 00:37:58,260 --> 00:37:54,880 however this project got started on 867 00:37:59,820 --> 00:37:58,270 Twitter I just chatted to a couple of 868 00:38:02,040 --> 00:37:59,830 people on Twitter about they sent before 869 00:38:05,220 --> 00:38:02,050 we know it we had a public proposal bit 870 00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:05,230 so you can do things in person you can 871 00:38:08,790 --> 00:38:07,150 do things online and I guess I'm showing 872 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:08,800 that but here's back in person this is 873 00:38:15,090 --> 00:38:10,450 some of the people that I started this 874 00:38:19,730 --> 00:38:15,100 project with jerem left is my student 875 00:38:23,610 --> 00:38:19,740 Sean all the peoples probably barneby 876 00:38:25,770 --> 00:38:23,620 jeremy Baylin and myself because the 877 00:38:28,650 --> 00:38:25,780 Space Telescope at this up at a 878 00:38:31,350 --> 00:38:28,660 life-size pictures and that was just too 879 00:38:33,930 --> 00:38:31,360 cool not to take a picture of and then 880 00:38:37,710 --> 00:38:33,940 of course if you have something like 881 00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:37,720 this it goes and goes into the various 882 00:38:42,930 --> 00:38:40,570 media and you obsessively check and 883 00:38:45,660 --> 00:38:42,940 refresh things until you realize that 884 00:38:47,460 --> 00:38:45,670 it's all over and you can get to see 885 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:47,470 your end picture back and not be able to 886 00:38:52,290 --> 00:38:50,650 read anything except Hubble in the the 887 00:38:57,630 --> 00:38:52,300 press releases so that was kind of cool 888 00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:57,640 and and when I was a undergrad in 1995 889 00:39:02,460 --> 00:39:00,400 the NASA started the astronomic 890 00:39:04,860 --> 00:39:02,470 Astronomy Picture of the Day and it 891 00:39:05,790 --> 00:39:04,870 hasn't really changed format it looks 892 00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:05,800 exactly the same 893 00:39:12,330 --> 00:39:08,530 it just publishes a very neat as from 894 00:39:14,220 --> 00:39:12,340 Astronomy Picture every day and starting 895 00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:14,230 as a student of astronomy I was like 896 00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:16,450 well maybe one day when I grow up I'll 897 00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:18,370 have my own Astronomy Picture of the Day 898 00:39:26,180 --> 00:39:22,240 and lo I do finally have one 25 years 899 00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:26,190 later so cross that off past self so 900 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:31,450 that was really really fun so I talked 901 00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:33,370 about the fact that this is galaxies so 902 00:39:39,720 --> 00:39:37,450 big for a spiral galaxy and this is the 903 00:39:43,100 --> 00:39:39,730 Hubble tuning fork this is the way that 904 00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:43,110 Edwin Hubble back in nineteen the 1920s 905 00:39:48,690 --> 00:39:45,280 classified the galaxies that he saw on 906 00:39:51,410 --> 00:39:48,700 those photographs and so on the left 907 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:51,420 hand side are the ellipticals they are 908 00:39:56,310 --> 00:39:54,250 basically giant American footballs or 909 00:40:01,530 --> 00:39:56,320 rugby balls to spending where you are in 910 00:40:03,450 --> 00:40:01,540 the continent they are flattened ellipse 911 00:40:05,100 --> 00:40:03,460 elliptical things and it really did 912 00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:05,110 how you look at them that's that's 913 00:40:08,910 --> 00:40:07,030 that's those are the left red dead 914 00:40:11,910 --> 00:40:08,920 galaxies there oranjee they're made out 915 00:40:13,770 --> 00:40:11,920 of old stars and as you go further to 916 00:40:15,450 --> 00:40:13,780 the right you get more things that are 917 00:40:18,030 --> 00:40:15,460 made there and basically flatter and 918 00:40:20,850 --> 00:40:18,040 they are disk galaxies and rubens 919 00:40:23,900 --> 00:40:20,860 galaxies is essentially an SC galaxy so 920 00:40:26,730 --> 00:40:23,910 at the top right it doesn't have a giant 921 00:40:30,030 --> 00:40:26,740 central bulge it just is mostly made out 922 00:40:32,940 --> 00:40:30,040 of discs and arms but if you are looking 923 00:40:35,010 --> 00:40:32,950 for the biggest galaxies we typically 924 00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:35,020 find them on the left so hand side there 925 00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:36,910 are litical pick up the biggest galaxies 926 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:39,130 are elliptical so how do you get an SC 927 00:40:45,090 --> 00:40:42,810 to compete in the same weight class as 928 00:40:48,210 --> 00:40:45,100 ellipticals that's so that was kind of 929 00:40:50,910 --> 00:40:48,220 the question so I looked at this is a 930 00:40:55,530 --> 00:40:50,920 plot of all the nearby galaxies from the 931 00:40:57,990 --> 00:40:55,540 two micron all-sky survey and there are 932 00:41:00,840 --> 00:40:58,000 star-forming ones and there is quiescent 933 00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:00,850 quiescent means not doing very much star 934 00:41:05,730 --> 00:41:04,240 forming wise and they are there there's 935 00:41:07,950 --> 00:41:05,740 kind of two groupings here you can kind 936 00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:07,960 of see that there's there's a line of 937 00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:09,640 star-forming galaxies and there's a line 938 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:12,070 of guessing galaxies start forming 939 00:41:15,720 --> 00:41:14,050 galaxies are mostly spiral galaxies the 940 00:41:18,180 --> 00:41:15,730 quiescent ones are mostly elliptical 941 00:41:19,980 --> 00:41:18,190 galaxies and so if you as you go along 942 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:19,990 the spiral galaxies you certainly kind 943 00:41:24,810 --> 00:41:21,490 of peter out and then there's a few 944 00:41:27,090 --> 00:41:24,820 really big tend to be 11 solar mass 945 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:27,100 galaxies like they we call those super 946 00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:29,170 spirals so there's you know that's as 947 00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:31,450 big as we can grow them except that you 948 00:41:37,500 --> 00:41:34,480 then how can do another step of ten and 949 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:37,510 get ten through the 12 a trillion solar 950 00:41:45,330 --> 00:41:41,530 masses of stars and then you you get a 951 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:45,340 Rubens galaxy so it's even big for a 952 00:41:50,820 --> 00:41:47,770 super spiral it's a super super spiral 953 00:41:53,340 --> 00:41:50,830 and then at the but it's not making 954 00:41:55,770 --> 00:41:53,350 stars exactly like you expect the spiral 955 00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:55,780 galaxies to do it's just sort of 956 00:42:01,710 --> 00:41:59,200 underperforming a little bit there but 957 00:42:04,380 --> 00:42:01,720 still it's got ten times more stars than 958 00:42:07,100 --> 00:42:04,390 the typical super spiral so how do you 959 00:42:09,810 --> 00:42:07,110 get there how did it make so many stars 960 00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:09,820 the super spirals look like this and 961 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:12,610 most of them I think the technical term 962 00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:15,040 is trainwreck it's really when one a 963 00:42:18,790 --> 00:42:16,910 galaxy has smashed into 964 00:42:21,790 --> 00:42:18,800 the other one you can see on the 965 00:42:24,450 --> 00:42:21,800 left-hand side for example two two 966 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:24,460 bulges essentially that's two galaxies 967 00:42:29,290 --> 00:42:27,290 as they are smashing together in the 968 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:29,300 middle you can see well if that's a disk 969 00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:31,370 galaxy I have to squint a little bit 970 00:42:36,340 --> 00:42:33,920 because you know it's it's all twisted 971 00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:36,350 and and strange looking and even on the 972 00:42:39,010 --> 00:42:37,010 right-hand side 973 00:42:41,410 --> 00:42:39,020 despite that looking a lot more like a 974 00:42:43,450 --> 00:42:41,420 normal spiral galaxy it doesn't have 975 00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:43,460 really the spiral arms that in a regular 976 00:42:48,700 --> 00:42:45,710 regular pattern that definitely has been 977 00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:48,710 perturbed by some nearby companions or 978 00:42:53,650 --> 00:42:51,770 after eating a big meal basically 979 00:42:57,490 --> 00:42:53,660 merging with another galaxy and that 980 00:43:01,150 --> 00:42:57,500 seems to be a pattern super spirals tend 981 00:43:02,980 --> 00:43:01,160 to be survivors of a of a recent merger 982 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:02,990 and the only reason that they're there 983 00:43:07,300 --> 00:43:05,450 pumping at so much new stars is because 984 00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:07,310 they've just swallowed a companion 985 00:43:14,260 --> 00:43:11,570 galaxy so the super spirals it doesn't 986 00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:14,270 seem to belong to it doesn't it's not 987 00:43:19,330 --> 00:43:16,880 forming the amount of stars as the super 988 00:43:21,310 --> 00:43:19,340 spirals do is much bigger than the super 989 00:43:23,170 --> 00:43:21,320 spirals everything else seemed even 990 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:23,180 remotely in its weight class is an 991 00:43:29,380 --> 00:43:26,570 elliptical so how do you do this how do 992 00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:29,390 you make a giant disk galaxies how do we 993 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:31,490 how did you get there 994 00:43:37,780 --> 00:43:35,930 and so I go back to what we know about 995 00:43:40,210 --> 00:43:37,790 how galaxies formed we know that 996 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:40,220 galaxies forming giant Dark Matter halos 997 00:43:45,130 --> 00:43:42,890 so as soon as we learned from Reubens 998 00:43:48,190 --> 00:43:45,140 results and other boss wants results 999 00:43:50,470 --> 00:43:48,200 that galaxies have dark matter in them 1000 00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:50,480 we started making universes in the 1001 00:43:55,210 --> 00:43:52,730 computer that have dark matter in them 1002 00:43:56,410 --> 00:43:55,220 so we start with a giant amount of dark 1003 00:43:58,090 --> 00:43:56,420 matter you see that on the right hand 1004 00:44:00,070 --> 00:43:58,100 side that's what the dark matter lives 1005 00:44:02,020 --> 00:44:00,080 and then you start following where the 1006 00:44:04,510 --> 00:44:02,030 stars are and you see that the galaxies 1007 00:44:06,910 --> 00:44:04,520 sit in the same position as where all 1008 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:06,920 the dark matter is coming together but u 1009 00:44:12,460 --> 00:44:09,410 s-- notice something else as well if you 1010 00:44:14,620 --> 00:44:12,470 have a big thing of dark matter smaller 1011 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:14,630 bits of dark matter fall into it and 1012 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:17,410 they are taking their stars with them so 1013 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:22,250 stars if you have a big galaxy it should 1014 00:44:28,900 --> 00:44:26,690 be eating and should be acquiring all 1015 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:28,910 these smaller galaxies and then 1016 00:44:32,890 --> 00:44:30,650 encountering other galaxies 1017 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:32,900 and then smashing into them like it's a 1018 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:35,090 very violent process you're the life of 1019 00:44:40,780 --> 00:44:37,970 the galaxy it seems to be so how do you 1020 00:44:42,630 --> 00:44:40,790 make a galaxy of a disk which doesn't 1021 00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:42,640 seem to have been troubled by anybody 1022 00:44:49,090 --> 00:44:45,170 doesn't seem to have eaten many smaller 1023 00:44:51,700 --> 00:44:49,100 galaxies in recently either one this is 1024 00:44:57,310 --> 00:44:51,710 how you know galaxies form you know that 1025 00:44:59,620 --> 00:44:57,320 they start as as separate blobs of self 1026 00:45:02,590 --> 00:44:59,630 dark matter and they come together and 1027 00:45:06,490 --> 00:45:02,600 small a bigger and bigger chunks so this 1028 00:45:11,620 --> 00:45:06,500 is maybe this is an exception remember 1029 00:45:14,110 --> 00:45:11,630 we only have the one so maybe it's just 1030 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:14,120 eaten lots of really really small 1031 00:45:17,050 --> 00:45:15,530 galaxies and this is what you then 1032 00:45:19,570 --> 00:45:17,060 expect you expect all these smaller 1033 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:19,580 galaxies are our rubens galaxies the 1034 00:45:24,430 --> 00:45:21,770 green circle in the center and then you 1035 00:45:27,130 --> 00:45:24,440 throw all these smaller galaxies at them 1036 00:45:28,810 --> 00:45:27,140 and they get completely shredded to 1037 00:45:31,060 --> 00:45:28,820 pieces as you can see they're all in 1038 00:45:33,370 --> 00:45:31,070 these streams and in these all the stars 1039 00:45:36,540 --> 00:45:33,380 gets flung all over the place and this 1040 00:45:39,970 --> 00:45:36,550 is all by tidal forces so you expect 1041 00:45:41,620 --> 00:45:39,980 this basically if you look deep enough 1042 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:41,630 but even with the Hubble Space Telescope 1043 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:44,450 at the distance where Ruben's galaxies 1044 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:46,490 at we wouldn't be able to see the 1045 00:45:51,580 --> 00:45:48,530 streams we wouldn't be able to see the 1046 00:45:55,150 --> 00:45:51,590 the fuzzy plumes because they're just so 1047 00:45:56,770 --> 00:45:55,160 spread out however so here's what these 1048 00:45:58,900 --> 00:45:56,780 fuzzy plumes this is sort of what you 1049 00:46:02,200 --> 00:45:58,910 expect you expect something like this so 1050 00:46:05,380 --> 00:46:02,210 you expect shells you expect plumes you 1051 00:46:09,190 --> 00:46:05,390 expect streams of stars but they're all 1052 00:46:11,050 --> 00:46:09,200 so dim that we can't see them but how so 1053 00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:11,060 how can we find see if they have this 1054 00:46:16,390 --> 00:46:14,480 well every galaxy has clusters around it 1055 00:46:18,820 --> 00:46:16,400 every galaxy has globular clusters and 1056 00:46:22,230 --> 00:46:18,830 so what you can do is look for the 1057 00:46:24,790 --> 00:46:22,240 surviving globular clusters of these 1058 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:24,800 galaxies that the big galaxy has eaten 1059 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:27,650 and so this is the sombrero galaxy again 1060 00:46:32,140 --> 00:46:29,930 and we people have studied this in 1061 00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:32,150 detail and look for all the globular 1062 00:46:40,090 --> 00:46:36,110 clusters around this big again similar 1063 00:46:42,910 --> 00:46:40,100 mass not quite similar mass but big 1064 00:46:44,740 --> 00:46:42,920 ellipticals s.0 galaxies 1065 00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:44,750 and you can find a lot of globular 1066 00:46:50,470 --> 00:46:47,359 clusters it it has eaten a lot of its 1067 00:46:51,940 --> 00:46:50,480 companions clearly so this is what a 1068 00:46:53,260 --> 00:46:51,950 globular cluster it looks like in our 1069 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:53,270 own Milky Way 1070 00:46:58,780 --> 00:46:56,650 it is a heap of stars in a spherical 1071 00:47:01,000 --> 00:46:58,790 grouping so they're always nice and 1072 00:47:02,980 --> 00:47:01,010 round they all formed at the same time 1073 00:47:07,930 --> 00:47:02,990 and they all stick together and so then 1074 00:47:10,809 --> 00:47:07,940 you look for these small blobs of stars 1075 00:47:13,569 --> 00:47:10,819 and they look like not quite a star at 1076 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:13,579 the distance of movements galaxies the 1077 00:47:17,650 --> 00:47:16,010 nice thing is we have color information 1078 00:47:20,470 --> 00:47:17,660 so we know that there supposed to be a 1079 00:47:22,390 --> 00:47:20,480 certain color we have blue green and red 1080 00:47:26,770 --> 00:47:22,400 so we can see if they're in the right 1081 00:47:29,170 --> 00:47:26,780 part of color space for example we do we 1082 00:47:32,410 --> 00:47:29,180 compare green versus red and blue versus 1083 00:47:34,390 --> 00:47:32,420 green that's the the x-axis is V minus I 1084 00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:34,400 that's the filter names but that means 1085 00:47:41,200 --> 00:47:38,089 green - red and B - V is blue - green 1086 00:47:43,630 --> 00:47:41,210 and so we say all right the points that 1087 00:47:45,910 --> 00:47:43,640 I'm seeing where exactly do they live we 1088 00:47:49,420 --> 00:47:45,920 know that the G sees the globular 1089 00:47:51,700 --> 00:47:49,430 clusters are living in ellipsoid in the 1090 00:47:53,620 --> 00:47:51,710 center and there's two kinds this bluish 1091 00:47:55,089 --> 00:47:53,630 ones there are a little younger and 1092 00:47:58,270 --> 00:47:55,099 there's reddish ones they're even older 1093 00:48:00,700 --> 00:47:58,280 and so we go tally how many of those we 1094 00:48:03,730 --> 00:48:00,710 see that's the trick we're gonna go see 1095 00:48:07,089 --> 00:48:03,740 how many glimmer clusters Ruben's galaxy 1096 00:48:09,730 --> 00:48:07,099 had and do we see it's leftovers 1097 00:48:12,099 --> 00:48:09,740 essentially we're look we're looking in 1098 00:48:14,170 --> 00:48:12,109 Rubens galaxy's fridge and seeing if 1099 00:48:16,660 --> 00:48:14,180 it's got any leftovers from all the big 1100 00:48:19,329 --> 00:48:16,670 meals that it's had and also what we're 1101 00:48:21,010 --> 00:48:19,339 gonna do is see how bright them they are 1102 00:48:23,440 --> 00:48:21,020 and see how many are globular clusters 1103 00:48:25,299 --> 00:48:23,450 they are and if that which galaxies 1104 00:48:29,470 --> 00:48:25,309 other galaxies that we know it resembles 1105 00:48:31,539 --> 00:48:29,480 most so this is green - red the color 1106 00:48:33,940 --> 00:48:31,549 and then we also see how bright these 1107 00:48:35,380 --> 00:48:33,950 clusters are because if they have if 1108 00:48:37,450 --> 00:48:35,390 there's lots of really bright clusters 1109 00:48:39,730 --> 00:48:37,460 well that tells us that there are more 1110 00:48:41,289 --> 00:48:39,740 recent arrivals or if there are lots of 1111 00:48:43,930 --> 00:48:41,299 faint ones than they're from they're 1112 00:48:49,660 --> 00:48:43,940 much longer and much older ago so we got 1113 00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:49,670 blue and red global clusters there okay 1114 00:48:56,710 --> 00:48:52,010 so this is from my colleague Jeremy 1115 00:48:59,650 --> 00:48:56,720 Balin he models how many we see so there 1116 00:49:03,849 --> 00:48:59,660 phew they start at 20th magnitude if you 1117 00:49:06,700 --> 00:49:03,859 are an observer that is hard to do with 1118 00:49:09,310 --> 00:49:06,710 anything other than a really big 1119 00:49:11,410 --> 00:49:09,320 telescope or anything in space and 1120 00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:11,420 that's where our global cost account 1121 00:49:15,339 --> 00:49:13,910 starts and it ends at 26 magnitude so 1122 00:49:17,050 --> 00:49:15,349 we're actually going pretty deep we're 1123 00:49:21,220 --> 00:49:17,060 going to find we find a pretty good 1124 00:49:24,070 --> 00:49:21,230 tally of them and we then compare that 1125 00:49:26,109 --> 00:49:24,080 so this is a histogram of absolute 1126 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:26,119 magnitude so how bright they are if they 1127 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:27,770 if you would put them at a certain 1128 00:49:36,490 --> 00:49:30,650 distance so we can compare them with the 1129 00:49:39,460 --> 00:49:36,500 other numbers of globular clusters in 1130 00:49:43,740 --> 00:49:39,470 other galaxies so we've looked over the 1131 00:49:46,750 --> 00:49:43,750 years and Hubble has done this since 1132 00:49:48,940 --> 00:49:46,760 2000 I think it has taken tallies of 1133 00:49:51,339 --> 00:49:48,950 nearby galaxies and tallied up their 1134 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:51,349 globular cluster counts how many do they 1135 00:49:57,490 --> 00:49:55,010 have how many how bright are they my 1136 00:50:00,490 --> 00:49:57,500 colleague Republic Chandra is a world is 1137 00:50:03,579 --> 00:50:00,500 the world expert on this and I also know 1138 00:50:06,130 --> 00:50:03,589 her from space telescope days and so she 1139 00:50:10,599 --> 00:50:06,140 and I will be comparing these these 1140 00:50:13,740 --> 00:50:10,609 counts so actually look at that you look 1141 00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:13,750 at where ma t81 one of the beautiful 1142 00:50:19,810 --> 00:50:15,890 disk galaxies in their local 1143 00:50:22,329 --> 00:50:19,820 neighborhood they're all much much 1144 00:50:26,170 --> 00:50:22,339 fainter than the ones in the Rubens 1145 00:50:28,210 --> 00:50:26,180 galaxy the ones in EM 51 are pretty 1146 00:50:34,089 --> 00:50:28,220 close the one in m83 are pretty close 1147 00:50:38,770 --> 00:50:34,099 but those two m101 and m81 are the 1148 00:50:41,050 --> 00:50:38,780 bigger galaxies and the m51 and m83 are 1149 00:50:43,660 --> 00:50:41,060 all the smaller disk galaxies they're 1150 00:50:47,230 --> 00:50:43,670 much lower amounts and yet they resemble 1151 00:50:49,660 --> 00:50:47,240 the closest to Ruben's galaxies so the 1152 00:50:51,700 --> 00:50:49,670 strangest thing is that as I do this 1153 00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:51,710 comparison and I'm looking at like the 1154 00:50:57,940 --> 00:50:55,609 size chart here there's no progression 1155 00:51:01,710 --> 00:50:57,950 where you go from the smallest m81 1156 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:01,720 numbers to and 101 and then compared to 1157 00:51:07,630 --> 00:51:05,330 Ruben's galaxies because it doesn't look 1158 00:51:09,490 --> 00:51:07,640 like the the bigger galaxies he doesn't 1159 00:51:10,240 --> 00:51:09,500 have the globular clusters like the big 1160 00:51:12,100 --> 00:51:10,250 spirals to 1161 00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:12,110 and it doesn't really have that as the 1162 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:15,170 smallest one either it's somewhere in 1163 00:51:22,030 --> 00:51:15,650 between 1164 00:51:24,550 --> 00:51:22,040 it looks like m51 just walked out just 1165 00:51:28,180 --> 00:51:24,560 really really big just not violent it 1166 00:51:29,890 --> 00:51:28,190 has just slowly grown over time that's 1167 00:51:32,350 --> 00:51:29,900 the conclusion that we're getting it is 1168 00:51:37,720 --> 00:51:32,360 really like a normal disc galaxy but 1169 00:51:39,430 --> 00:51:37,730 smaller and kind of impressive that it 1170 00:51:43,180 --> 00:51:39,440 managed to grow that size without 1171 00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:43,190 encountering anybody this is the most 1172 00:51:50,650 --> 00:51:46,310 complicated part I'll show you I promise 1173 00:51:53,170 --> 00:51:50,660 this shows on the on the x-axis the 1174 00:51:55,060 --> 00:51:53,180 brightness of the galaxy and to the left 1175 00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:55,070 of the brightest galaxies and to the 1176 00:51:59,380 --> 00:51:57,680 right are the dimmest galaxies and it's 1177 00:52:01,930 --> 00:51:59,390 because it's a magnitude then more 1178 00:52:03,730 --> 00:52:01,940 negative than number the brighter it is 1179 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:03,740 but if you don't like that you can look 1180 00:52:07,630 --> 00:52:05,090 at the top and there in scientific 1181 00:52:10,030 --> 00:52:07,640 notation is how bright it is in solar 1182 00:52:13,660 --> 00:52:10,040 luminosities and so in solar 1183 00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:13,670 luminosities UGC 285 Reubens galaxy is 1184 00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:16,640 about 10 to the 10 1185 00:52:23,890 --> 00:52:21,050 but in mass it's a bit bigger and so if 1186 00:52:26,950 --> 00:52:23,900 you look from the y axis we get this 1187 00:52:31,450 --> 00:52:26,960 strange T value and T is basically how 1188 00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:31,460 many clusters do you have per million 1189 00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:35,090 solar masses if I add another million 1190 00:52:40,690 --> 00:52:37,370 solar masses to this galaxy you get 1191 00:52:44,350 --> 00:52:40,700 there's X number there's you know ten to 1192 00:52:46,780 --> 00:52:44,360 the ten or a hundred globular clusters 1193 00:52:48,700 --> 00:52:46,790 that clusters that go with it and so 1194 00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:48,710 what people have noticed in looking at 1195 00:52:53,110 --> 00:52:50,960 all these different studies using often 1196 00:52:58,930 --> 00:52:53,120 the Hubble Space Telescope that in the 1197 00:53:01,660 --> 00:52:58,940 so the blue points and black squares the 1198 00:53:05,020 --> 00:53:01,670 squares and this circles essentially are 1199 00:53:10,450 --> 00:53:05,030 the dwarf galaxies and dwarf galaxies 1200 00:53:15,250 --> 00:53:10,460 for any for all per million solar masses 1201 00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:15,260 of stars they have about between ten and 1202 00:53:20,740 --> 00:53:18,650 a hundred globular clusters so they have 1203 00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:20,750 a lot of they have a lot of globular 1204 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:23,250 clusters for their size and their 1205 00:53:26,690 --> 00:53:25,170 and then if you start smashing them 1206 00:53:28,670 --> 00:53:26,700 together as you're trying to make a 1207 00:53:31,580 --> 00:53:28,680 bigger galaxy by smashing lots of dwarf 1208 00:53:33,470 --> 00:53:31,590 galaxies together you should get more 1209 00:53:35,780 --> 00:53:33,480 globular clusters even if you destroy a 1210 00:53:37,490 --> 00:53:35,790 few they're pretty resilient they said 1211 00:53:40,220 --> 00:53:37,500 stick around and so that's what you end 1212 00:53:42,770 --> 00:53:40,230 up with the on the left-hand side here 1213 00:53:44,270 --> 00:53:42,780 this all the triangles are elliptical so 1214 00:53:46,370 --> 00:53:44,280 on this side is where they elliptical to 1215 00:53:48,470 --> 00:53:46,380 live and they are made from smashing 1216 00:53:50,930 --> 00:53:48,480 lots of dwarf galaxies together so per 1217 00:53:52,850 --> 00:53:50,940 million solar masses they have the same 1218 00:53:55,310 --> 00:53:52,860 number of global across ters you know 1219 00:53:59,210 --> 00:53:55,320 give or take one or two I say you know 1220 00:54:02,090 --> 00:53:59,220 sloppily get eaten but that's okay but 1221 00:54:04,190 --> 00:54:02,100 here's UGC to 885 it's sitting all the 1222 00:54:06,470 --> 00:54:04,200 way at the bottom of this plot it has 1223 00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:06,480 the fewest numbers of globular clusters 1224 00:54:14,810 --> 00:54:10,250 of any galaxy we know it just doesn't 1225 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:14,820 seem to have as many per million solar 1226 00:54:20,420 --> 00:54:18,090 masses so it hasn't it hasn't been made 1227 00:54:22,070 --> 00:54:20,430 by smashing the blue and red points 1228 00:54:24,260 --> 00:54:22,080 together in order to make the the 1229 00:54:26,060 --> 00:54:24,270 ellipticals it hasn't been made that way 1230 00:54:29,330 --> 00:54:26,070 it's actually sitting well below that 1231 00:54:32,210 --> 00:54:29,340 now that is a little interesting because 1232 00:54:33,860 --> 00:54:32,220 we are our whole paradigm is that in 1233 00:54:36,980 --> 00:54:33,870 order to make big things you smash 1234 00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:36,990 smaller things together and so what we 1235 00:54:40,790 --> 00:54:38,910 think is happening is that we're looking 1236 00:54:45,260 --> 00:54:40,800 at a give this galaxies like this one 1237 00:54:47,660 --> 00:54:45,270 and we think streams of gas are arriving 1238 00:54:50,150 --> 00:54:47,670 out of the intergalactic medium these 1239 00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:50,160 are called cold streams and there are 1240 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:53,850 now a major hunt going on in the radio 1241 00:54:58,790 --> 00:54:55,890 astronomy to see if we can find these 1242 00:55:01,910 --> 00:54:58,800 streams but instead of having them those 1243 00:55:05,450 --> 00:55:01,920 little galaxies in them in the case of 1244 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:05,460 Rubens galaxy it was just gas 1245 00:55:09,470 --> 00:55:07,890 there's just gas flowing into this disk 1246 00:55:12,350 --> 00:55:09,480 disk and it's been doing that for 1247 00:55:15,650 --> 00:55:12,360 billions of years as it just slowly grew 1248 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:15,660 grew in disk size and slowly grew by 1249 00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:20,010 slowly converting that gas into stars so 1250 00:55:26,030 --> 00:55:22,890 a gentle giant it has not been enough 1251 00:55:28,910 --> 00:55:26,040 fiery eating giant meals it has been 1252 00:55:31,820 --> 00:55:28,920 snacking since the dawn of time turning 1253 00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:31,830 all this into its giant and beautiful 1254 00:55:36,710 --> 00:55:34,890 discs so I think we think that this is 1255 00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:36,720 the best solution for how 1256 00:55:40,940 --> 00:55:39,810 can make giant disk galaxies you don't 1257 00:55:43,390 --> 00:55:40,950 have to 1258 00:55:47,420 --> 00:55:43,400 Hulk smash here it's in fact quite a 1259 00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:47,430 non-violent and then I get some sanity 1260 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:50,310 checks I looked at the stellar mass so 1261 00:55:54,830 --> 00:55:52,170 you can see it's just over ten to the 1262 00:55:58,940 --> 00:55:54,840 twelve and the excess is solar mass on 1263 00:55:59,900 --> 00:55:58,950 the y axis is basically size so the 1264 00:56:03,349 --> 00:55:59,910 bigger the better 1265 00:56:06,770 --> 00:56:03,359 the you know the bigger the the more 1266 00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,780 massive the more extended that seems to 1267 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:08,400 hold pretty well these are all the 1268 00:56:15,380 --> 00:56:09,810 relations that different people have 1269 00:56:18,650 --> 00:56:15,390 found and are my little three corner 1270 00:56:21,950 --> 00:56:18,660 shape is Rubens galaxy again and it's 1271 00:56:24,260 --> 00:56:21,960 right on where the averages are except 1272 00:56:26,510 --> 00:56:24,270 with the average for their for the for 1273 00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:26,520 those mask galaxies has been determined 1274 00:56:34,370 --> 00:56:30,480 from elliptical galaxies but it is the 1275 00:56:36,020 --> 00:56:34,380 right size for its mass so nothing 1276 00:56:38,030 --> 00:56:36,030 strange going on there it hasn't been 1277 00:56:40,910 --> 00:56:38,040 stretched out or anything like that it 1278 00:56:43,579 --> 00:56:40,920 is the size that you expect it to be is 1279 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:43,589 it may be rare well it is definitely the 1280 00:56:49,099 --> 00:56:46,170 rare in our local universe because as 1281 00:56:51,140 --> 00:56:49,109 you can see here the x-axis is more 1282 00:56:53,540 --> 00:56:51,150 distant so as we go further and further 1283 00:56:56,930 --> 00:56:53,550 out again the grayscale is the two mass 1284 00:56:58,910 --> 00:56:56,940 local galaxies survey and the brighter 1285 00:57:00,770 --> 00:56:58,920 galaxies are at the top it kind of 1286 00:57:05,630 --> 00:57:00,780 Peters out as you get to the brighter 1287 00:57:08,420 --> 00:57:05,640 galaxies and it is definitely one of a 1288 00:57:12,530 --> 00:57:08,430 kind in our survey surveys like this so 1289 00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:12,540 it seems to be sitting in its own corner 1290 00:57:17,150 --> 00:57:14,570 of the universe doing its own thing 1291 00:57:20,930 --> 00:57:17,160 being quite unique which is quite nice 1292 00:57:24,349 --> 00:57:20,940 to see how about its environment is it 1293 00:57:26,900 --> 00:57:24,359 particularly lonely so we look at the y 1294 00:57:29,570 --> 00:57:26,910 axis is a measure of how lonely galaxies 1295 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:29,580 are we say the fourth nearest neighbor I 1296 00:57:33,230 --> 00:57:31,050 have to explain this to a student the 1297 00:57:35,780 --> 00:57:33,240 other day if you want to know how credit 1298 00:57:37,730 --> 00:57:35,790 your environment is you go figure out 1299 00:57:39,410 --> 00:57:37,740 not where you're near the nearest other 1300 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:39,420 person is the nearest other person in my 1301 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:40,530 case is downstairs 1302 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:44,250 the next person over is also downstairs 1303 00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:46,050 the next person after that is also 1304 00:57:49,980 --> 00:57:48,170 downstairs they're all on their screens 1305 00:57:53,550 --> 00:57:49,990 but 1306 00:57:55,710 --> 00:57:53,560 the fourth nearest neighbor is my is my 1307 00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:55,720 next-door neighbor and so the fourth 1308 00:57:59,579 --> 00:57:57,609 person near you if you're sitting in a 1309 00:58:01,740 --> 00:57:59,589 crowded auditorium the fourth you can 1310 00:58:04,530 --> 00:58:01,750 probably touch the fourth nearest person 1311 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:04,540 to you and so you know it's crowded if 1312 00:58:09,870 --> 00:58:07,330 you can in a subway for example if you 1313 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:09,880 can touch the fourth person ears to you 1314 00:58:14,310 --> 00:58:12,490 but if you're living in the suburbs the 1315 00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:14,320 fourth nearest person to you it's 1316 00:58:18,780 --> 00:58:16,480 definitely one house over and if you're 1317 00:58:20,490 --> 00:58:18,790 living in the countryside it might take 1318 00:58:23,490 --> 00:58:20,500 a short drive for you to get through the 1319 00:58:26,310 --> 00:58:23,500 fourth person years to you so the force 1320 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:26,320 near fourth nearest neighbor is a good 1321 00:58:31,650 --> 00:58:29,050 way to see if you're living in a crowded 1322 00:58:35,849 --> 00:58:31,660 environment or not and the distance to 1323 00:58:39,150 --> 00:58:35,859 the your fourth neighbor is for this 1324 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:39,160 galaxy I don't know it's it seems to be 1325 00:58:43,170 --> 00:58:41,290 not in a space where most galaxies seem 1326 00:58:45,630 --> 00:58:43,180 to live they're all smaller but they're 1327 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:45,640 also kind of in a whole range of credit 1328 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:47,290 fields it seems to be that it is not 1329 00:58:51,900 --> 00:58:49,810 particularly unique I thought that I 1330 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:51,910 could find a way saying like well it 1331 00:58:56,010 --> 00:58:53,410 doesn't have any friends it's sitting 1332 00:58:59,880 --> 00:58:56,020 off in the corner but it seems to be 1333 00:59:01,890 --> 00:58:59,890 fairly common density so how do you grow 1334 00:59:04,410 --> 00:59:01,900 this giant it is so much more massive 1335 00:59:06,359 --> 00:59:04,420 it's so bigger much bigger than any 1336 00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:06,369 typical spiral galaxy and I am talking 1337 00:59:12,210 --> 00:59:09,970 ten times more massive the hundred times 1338 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:12,220 more massive than any spiral you you 1339 00:59:18,300 --> 00:59:15,010 care to name and it's also ten times 1340 00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:18,310 bigger than anything else in the spiral 1341 00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:20,770 galaxy rearrange so the question is how 1342 00:59:25,290 --> 00:59:23,200 you grow that and without mergers 1343 00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:25,300 mergers should leave a mark either in 1344 00:59:31,349 --> 00:59:27,970 the population of covered clusters or in 1345 00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:31,359 the disk itself we don't see either and 1346 00:59:35,430 --> 00:59:33,520 so the fact that we see so few global 1347 00:59:37,650 --> 00:59:35,440 across series is implying that it has 1348 00:59:39,900 --> 00:59:37,660 actually grown very gradually over time 1349 00:59:44,670 --> 00:59:39,910 we don't see the remnants of any big 1350 00:59:46,290 --> 00:59:44,680 meals so that is that is interesting so 1351 00:59:47,940 --> 00:59:46,300 apparently you don't need to smash 1352 00:59:50,730 --> 00:59:47,950 things together in order to make a big 1353 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:50,740 galaxy and there's another way and of 1354 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:52,930 course I have a next question because as 1355 00:59:57,150 --> 00:59:55,570 with as always with science there's a 1356 00:59:59,160 --> 00:59:57,160 next question and as I look at this 1357 01:00:01,079 --> 00:59:59,170 galaxy and I go wow this is really big 1358 01:00:02,970 --> 01:00:01,089 galaxy what's what's the other thing 1359 01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:02,980 about the galaxies the other thing about 1360 01:00:06,230 --> 01:00:03,930 Big Alex 1361 01:00:09,859 --> 01:00:06,240 they have a really big supermassive 1362 01:00:13,700 --> 01:00:09,869 black hole in the center does this guy 1363 01:00:16,309 --> 01:00:13,710 do do as well all the big the picture of 1364 01:00:20,390 --> 01:00:16,319 the hull of those black hole picture 1365 01:00:23,150 --> 01:00:20,400 that you saw a year ago that was an 1366 01:00:24,380 --> 01:00:23,160 elliptical galaxy and we know that for 1367 01:00:26,510 --> 01:00:24,390 instance our own Milky Way has a 1368 01:00:28,910 --> 01:00:26,520 supermassive black hole but I'm really 1369 01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:28,920 curious if this guy has a supermassive 1370 01:00:34,789 --> 01:00:32,490 black hole does it has it grown with the 1371 01:00:38,390 --> 01:00:34,799 Galaxy itself is it a supermassive black 1372 01:00:42,470 --> 01:00:38,400 hole that's typical for a 10 to the 12 1373 01:00:45,109 --> 01:00:42,480 Solem a stellar thing or is it more is 1374 01:00:48,019 --> 01:00:45,119 it just like in 51 is it just like I'm 1375 01:00:50,960 --> 01:00:48,029 83 like is it really just a smaller disc 1376 01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:50,970 galaxies black hole how does that work 1377 01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:52,170 and that's the thing that I'll be 1378 01:00:59,120 --> 01:00:56,970 working with with Saavik Ford aah 1379 01:01:01,460 --> 01:00:59,130 the Museum of Natural History on so I'll 1380 01:01:03,500 --> 01:01:01,470 be really interesting so we always have 1381 01:01:07,849 --> 01:01:03,510 new things to explore with this and 1382 01:01:09,349 --> 01:01:07,859 we'll use other telescopes as well as as 1383 01:01:13,730 --> 01:01:09,359 well as the Hubble picture to go study 1384 01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:13,740 now the center of this galaxy all right 1385 01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:15,930 thank you so much for listening to me 1386 01:01:22,039 --> 01:01:18,690 this is the inevitable selfie in front 1387 01:01:24,260 --> 01:01:22,049 of the galaxy if you if you get a poster 1388 01:01:26,539 --> 01:01:24,270 that's bigger than you you have to take 1389 01:01:30,109 --> 01:01:26,549 a picture of that that is just the stuff 1390 01:01:33,019 --> 01:01:30,119 that's the rules and so I really thank 1391 01:01:35,269 --> 01:01:33,029 you all very much for listening and I'll 1392 01:01:39,470 --> 01:01:35,279 take questions if you have them all 1393 01:01:43,220 --> 01:01:39,480 right that was wonderful bene we're 1394 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:43,230 really enjoyed what a really deep tour 1395 01:01:50,299 --> 01:01:48,450 of a very unusual galaxy although I have 1396 01:01:52,130 --> 01:01:50,309 to tell you that when we first came up 1397 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:52,140 in the news meeting that we were going 1398 01:01:56,180 --> 01:01:54,210 to present this we looked at that big 1399 01:01:58,430 --> 01:01:56,190 bright star with the spikes all over in 1400 01:02:06,529 --> 01:01:58,440 front of it yeah and we referred to it 1401 01:02:08,930 --> 01:02:06,539 as a star crossed galaxy I do understand 1402 01:02:10,700 --> 01:02:08,940 that this is not the first galaxy you 1403 01:02:13,490 --> 01:02:10,710 would point your bright shiny new 1404 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:13,500 telescope at because of that story you'd 1405 01:02:17,330 --> 01:02:15,450 be worried that you just damaged the 1406 01:02:19,820 --> 01:02:17,340 camera but 1407 01:02:22,310 --> 01:02:19,830 we did a careful check throughout to 1408 01:02:25,790 --> 01:02:22,320 make sure that that didn't happen but it 1409 01:02:27,650 --> 01:02:25,800 is very hard to look at the galaxy with 1410 01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:27,660 such a bright we're kind of squinting at 1411 01:02:34,730 --> 01:02:31,490 our screen half the time but it's pretty 1412 01:02:36,850 --> 01:02:34,740 wonderful so I got a question from as 1413 01:02:40,670 --> 01:02:36,860 somebody who worked on galaxy formation 1414 01:02:41,930 --> 01:02:40,680 and development over time it sounds like 1415 01:02:43,820 --> 01:02:41,940 what you're saying is this is a 1416 01:02:45,770 --> 01:02:43,830 quiescent galaxy alright this has sort 1417 01:02:48,170 --> 01:02:45,780 of formed quiescent lis which sort of 1418 01:02:50,120 --> 01:02:48,180 means that you know it forms generally 1419 01:02:51,650 --> 01:02:50,130 out in a void --is-- area because you're 1420 01:02:55,790 --> 01:02:51,660 not going to have the things smashing in 1421 01:02:57,740 --> 01:02:55,800 from all directions but you Gen show the 1422 01:02:59,720 --> 01:02:57,750 force nearest-neighbor statistic and 1423 01:03:02,330 --> 01:02:59,730 it's not that atypical for a fourth 1424 01:03:04,330 --> 01:03:02,340 nearest neighbor statistic so it doesn't 1425 01:03:09,500 --> 01:03:04,340 sound like it's in this floyd region so 1426 01:03:15,410 --> 01:03:09,510 what's going on here dude okay so if you 1427 01:03:17,270 --> 01:03:15,420 only have one galaxy then there might 1428 01:03:19,460 --> 01:03:17,280 just you have to take into account that 1429 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:19,470 you might just be looking at a very 1430 01:03:23,930 --> 01:03:21,570 lucky galaxy and I think this is what 1431 01:03:27,020 --> 01:03:23,940 happened I think it just narrowly 1432 01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:27,030 escaped smashing into anything else okay 1433 01:03:35,630 --> 01:03:29,370 it's not it's it's kind of it's the its 1434 01:03:38,630 --> 01:03:35,640 I have a Giuliano Canton has a saying 1435 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:38,640 that's like every galaxy strange you as 1436 01:03:43,720 --> 01:03:40,770 soon as you get to know them this is 1437 01:03:47,450 --> 01:03:43,730 true for people astronomers and galaxies 1438 01:03:50,630 --> 01:03:47,460 this galaxy might just be lucky it 1439 01:03:52,100 --> 01:03:50,640 hasn't it's not quiescent as in a dozen 1440 01:03:54,230 --> 01:03:52,110 florrum stars all the blue stuff that 1441 01:03:59,420 --> 01:03:54,240 you see is new stars it's making new 1442 01:04:01,760 --> 01:03:59,430 stars alright it's just hasn't smashed 1443 01:04:04,300 --> 01:04:01,770 into anything but it even hasn't smashed 1444 01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:04,310 into anything small as far as I can tell 1445 01:04:10,460 --> 01:04:08,730 it hasn't gone and eaten something like 1446 01:04:12,170 --> 01:04:10,470 the Magellanic Clouds for example which 1447 01:04:14,420 --> 01:04:12,180 is what our Milky Way has done the Milky 1448 01:04:16,610 --> 01:04:14,430 Way has two major events in our it's 1449 01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:16,620 history already and it's a lot smaller 1450 01:04:22,430 --> 01:04:19,170 in the Miss galaxy it has the 1451 01:04:25,730 --> 01:04:22,440 Sagittarius stream which is a Magellanic 1452 01:04:28,010 --> 01:04:25,740 large running on a cloud size collision 1453 01:04:30,890 --> 01:04:28,020 and it has a Magellanic Clouds falling 1454 01:04:32,569 --> 01:04:30,900 in right now so it's got two of these 1455 01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:32,579 events happening and it as far as I can 1456 01:04:39,650 --> 01:04:35,970 tell this conscious is dodged all of it 1457 01:04:43,700 --> 01:04:39,660 okay well we have over 150 people 1458 01:04:45,859 --> 01:04:43,710 watching live so we have a bunch of 1459 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:45,869 questions online and I haven't been able 1460 01:04:49,609 --> 01:04:47,130 to follow them while I'm listening to 1461 01:04:51,680 --> 01:04:49,619 you but grant justice has taken them so 1462 01:04:52,779 --> 01:04:51,690 grant give us some questions from our 1463 01:04:55,849 --> 01:04:52,789 audience 1464 01:04:57,620 --> 01:04:55,859 absolutely thank you everyone for tuning 1465 01:05:00,829 --> 01:04:57,630 in and I'll start off with some of the 1466 01:05:03,230 --> 01:05:00,839 easier ones and also the ones that we 1467 01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:03,240 get each time will Hubble continue its 1468 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:06,720 mission after the launch of JWST and now 1469 01:05:11,299 --> 01:05:07,890 rst 1470 01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:11,309 Roman scope and what happens to Hubble 1471 01:05:17,750 --> 01:05:14,640 when its life is over okay so I'll take 1472 01:05:19,099 --> 01:05:17,760 that one because we Hansel and we answer 1473 01:05:22,519 --> 01:05:19,109 that every now and then at Space 1474 01:05:24,740 --> 01:05:22,529 Telescope so Hubble will continue as 1475 01:05:27,079 --> 01:05:24,750 long as it is producing cutting-edge 1476 01:05:30,140 --> 01:05:27,089 science okay Hubble has been up for 30 1477 01:05:31,970 --> 01:05:30,150 years yes but it is still producing 1478 01:05:35,150 --> 01:05:31,980 science that no other telescope can 1479 01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:35,160 produce and as long as that is true it's 1480 01:05:39,710 --> 01:05:36,960 really producer of producing quality 1481 01:05:42,950 --> 01:05:39,720 science I expect Hubble will probably be 1482 01:05:45,490 --> 01:05:42,960 funded to continue the James Webb Space 1483 01:05:49,370 --> 01:05:45,500 Telescope will be an infrared telescope 1484 01:05:52,130 --> 01:05:49,380 and the Rubin Space Telescope is also an 1485 01:05:53,809 --> 01:05:52,140 infrared survey telescope so neither one 1486 01:05:55,849 --> 01:05:53,819 of them will replace Hubble they will 1487 01:06:00,559 --> 01:05:55,859 complement Hubble in the science that 1488 01:06:02,510 --> 01:06:00,569 they do when Hubble does have say 1489 01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:02,520 battery failures or gyroscope failures 1490 01:06:08,750 --> 01:06:06,089 or electronic failures and is no longer 1491 01:06:10,309 --> 01:06:08,760 producing the cutting-edge science it 1492 01:06:14,539 --> 01:06:10,319 needs to produce for it to be continued 1493 01:06:16,370 --> 01:06:14,549 the current plan is to let it orbit it's 1494 01:06:18,609 --> 01:06:16,380 not it doesn't have any problems with 1495 01:06:21,650 --> 01:06:18,619 orbiting into well into the 2030s 1496 01:06:23,569 --> 01:06:21,660 timeframe there is a soft capture 1497 01:06:26,450 --> 01:06:23,579 mechanism on the bottom of Hubble so if 1498 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:26,460 necessary we can fly a mission up grab 1499 01:06:30,980 --> 01:06:28,410 soft capture measurement mechanism and 1500 01:06:34,250 --> 01:06:30,990 do orbit huh but how that Hubble 1501 01:06:38,539 --> 01:06:34,260 carefully into the ocean okay 1502 01:06:40,849 --> 01:06:38,549 Hubble is too heavy to bring down in a 1503 01:06:42,769 --> 01:06:40,859 control like putting it into a future 1504 01:06:44,509 --> 01:06:42,779 space shock or something like that 1505 01:06:47,259 --> 01:06:44,519 and we can't let it just fall 1506 01:06:49,929 --> 01:06:47,269 willy-nilly so it would have to be 1507 01:06:52,219 --> 01:06:49,939 attempted to have a controlled descent 1508 01:06:54,679 --> 01:06:52,229 there of course others who want to just 1509 01:06:56,419 --> 01:06:54,689 move it up to a higher parking orbit and 1510 01:06:57,679 --> 01:06:56,429 let it sit there for decades until we 1511 01:06:59,269 --> 01:06:57,689 can figure out a great way to bring it 1512 01:07:01,669 --> 01:06:59,279 back down I mean everyone would love to 1513 01:07:04,669 --> 01:07:01,679 put it in the Smithsonian right it's 1514 01:07:08,449 --> 01:07:04,679 just kind of much too dangerous with the 1515 01:07:10,399 --> 01:07:08,459 current technology okay next gotcha okay 1516 01:07:12,829 --> 01:07:10,409 so let me take a look here and find our 1517 01:07:16,279 --> 01:07:12,839 next question all right 1518 01:07:20,229 --> 01:07:16,289 so how many billions of years does it 1519 01:07:23,779 --> 01:07:20,239 take to build a galaxy that big 1520 01:07:28,539 --> 01:07:23,789 something like the large spiral galaxy 1521 01:07:31,069 --> 01:07:28,549 that you have in the image behind us so 1522 01:07:34,249 --> 01:07:31,079 you take as long as you can so I think 1523 01:07:36,469 --> 01:07:34,259 that's you start right after the Big 1524 01:07:38,870 --> 01:07:36,479 Bang that's the thing that I quite love 1525 01:07:40,909 --> 01:07:38,880 about galaxy evolution something like a 1526 01:07:43,069 --> 01:07:40,919 few million years after the Big Bang 1527 01:07:46,059 --> 01:07:43,079 happens you see the first galaxies peak 1528 01:07:50,479 --> 01:07:46,069 up except that these are as big as 1529 01:07:52,699 --> 01:07:50,489 really some of the clumps of blue that 1530 01:07:54,499 --> 01:07:52,709 you see in this guy in this galaxy right 1531 01:07:56,929 --> 01:07:54,509 there oh they're tiny they're the little 1532 01:08:01,279 --> 01:07:56,939 seedlings that you grow a galaxy this 1533 01:08:03,309 --> 01:08:01,289 big from I think you need most of the 1534 01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:03,319 lifetime of the universe to build this 1535 01:08:10,669 --> 01:08:05,849 you got all that time please take it 1536 01:08:13,159 --> 01:08:10,679 right so 13 billion years it's got an 1537 01:08:15,199 --> 01:08:13,169 elven time for about 13 billion years I 1538 01:08:17,299 --> 01:08:15,209 think it's been actually but it's a slow 1539 01:08:20,689 --> 01:08:17,309 bake since everybody's baking right now 1540 01:08:23,029 --> 01:08:20,699 it's a slow bake because I think it has 1541 01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:23,039 slowly done this star formation about 1542 01:08:28,729 --> 01:08:25,650 you know half of solar mass so it's it 1543 01:08:34,249 --> 01:08:28,739 basically produces a Suns worth of new 1544 01:08:37,220 --> 01:08:34,259 stars every two years that is not the 1545 01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:37,230 world record in making new stars that's 1546 01:08:43,069 --> 01:08:40,770 many times that but it's been doing it 1547 01:08:45,620 --> 01:08:43,079 for a very long time and then you can 1548 01:08:49,039 --> 01:08:45,630 get there it probably was a little more 1549 01:08:51,169 --> 01:08:49,049 active in the early days but just by 1550 01:08:53,930 --> 01:08:51,179 having this big disk and just slowly 1551 01:08:56,390 --> 01:08:53,940 forming stars throughout you will build 1552 01:08:56,780 --> 01:08:56,400 a galaxy that big but yeah you need 1553 01:08:59,180 --> 01:08:56,790 probably 1554 01:09:03,860 --> 01:08:59,190 I need the whole age of the universe for 1555 01:09:06,380 --> 01:09:03,870 that all right and the next one we we 1556 01:09:09,110 --> 01:09:06,390 had a fun time in the comments talking 1557 01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:09,120 about space dust so I'll continue that 1558 01:09:16,340 --> 01:09:13,890 love on here could dark matter just be 1559 01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:16,350 some really really cold dust and gas 1560 01:09:21,980 --> 01:09:19,370 that spread out far away from the stars 1561 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:21,990 yeah you'd hope that's the case at least 1562 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:23,730 that certainly was the question but they 1563 01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:26,010 they asked me in 2000 when I started my 1564 01:09:30,650 --> 01:09:28,799 grats I started grad school so how much 1565 01:09:33,079 --> 01:09:30,660 dust is there in these disks and is it 1566 01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:33,089 enough to either hide enough stars and 1567 01:09:40,010 --> 01:09:35,850 then also have enough mass sitting in 1568 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:40,020 its in itself to be to be the dark 1569 01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:42,690 matter there's two things wrong with it 1570 01:09:49,820 --> 01:09:45,330 we can kind of know how much dust there 1571 01:09:51,460 --> 01:09:49,830 is now we've really studied many spiral 1572 01:09:55,820 --> 01:09:51,470 galaxies and so we know what the average 1573 01:09:58,400 --> 01:09:55,830 dust masses are simply we did the 1574 01:10:01,670 --> 01:09:58,410 accounting we looked at how much light 1575 01:10:06,440 --> 01:10:01,680 was missing and this dust is very much 1576 01:10:08,960 --> 01:10:06,450 like smog unlike yeah if you look at the 1577 01:10:11,210 --> 01:10:08,970 sunset and it's like if you're in LA and 1578 01:10:16,280 --> 01:10:11,220 it's been a smoggy day you've got a red 1579 01:10:18,380 --> 01:10:16,290 sunset right and and so you know how 1580 01:10:20,210 --> 01:10:18,390 much how much color change you've got 1581 01:10:23,870 --> 01:10:20,220 from the stars you know how much you're 1582 01:10:28,070 --> 01:10:23,880 missing but also that dust radiates it 1583 01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:28,080 back out as infrared light and so you 1584 01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:31,290 need to make it very very cold and you 1585 01:10:35,330 --> 01:10:33,510 need to make it a very special kind of 1586 01:10:38,540 --> 01:10:35,340 dust I think the technical term is 1587 01:10:41,390 --> 01:10:38,550 cannonballs you need to make them very 1588 01:10:43,580 --> 01:10:41,400 dense very black and they're completely 1589 01:10:46,940 --> 01:10:43,590 away from all the stars so they don't do 1590 01:10:48,200 --> 01:10:46,950 much than have gravity and then 1591 01:10:51,440 --> 01:10:48,210 occasionally block a little bit of 1592 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:51,450 starlight I don't know about you but 1593 01:10:57,650 --> 01:10:53,610 that sounds like dark matter to me and 1594 01:10:59,180 --> 01:10:57,660 so but that's the problem for that is 1595 01:11:02,390 --> 01:10:59,190 that basically you've got this magic 1596 01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:02,400 stuff that doesn't do anything else just 1597 01:11:07,040 --> 01:11:05,010 just gravity and the problem is that we 1598 01:11:09,140 --> 01:11:07,050 also know where the mass is because we 1599 01:11:10,490 --> 01:11:09,150 looked at the rotation curve and you can 1600 01:11:12,650 --> 01:11:10,500 see what the dust is in 1601 01:11:15,110 --> 01:11:12,660 Galaxy it's in the brighter parts of 1602 01:11:16,790 --> 01:11:15,120 this spiral and as you go further and 1603 01:11:19,010 --> 01:11:16,800 further out I will be the first to tell 1604 01:11:20,450 --> 01:11:19,020 you that yes those spiral arms also have 1605 01:11:24,380 --> 01:11:20,460 a little bit of dust in them 1606 01:11:26,620 --> 01:11:24,390 but that's not nearly enough to to 1607 01:11:29,570 --> 01:11:26,630 account for how fast it's rotating 1608 01:11:32,290 --> 01:11:29,580 because I kind of leads me into another 1609 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:32,300 facet of this right 1610 01:11:36,410 --> 01:11:34,770 Ruben's explanation for how galaxies 1611 01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:36,420 have flat rotation is that there is 1612 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:37,890 missing mass which is what you were just 1613 01:11:44,390 --> 01:11:42,090 touching on there which she called dark 1614 01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:44,400 matter but is there another way to 1615 01:11:48,500 --> 01:11:46,290 account for the observed strength of the 1616 01:11:50,570 --> 01:11:48,510 gravity other than mass is it possible 1617 01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:50,580 its energy is it possible it's something 1618 01:11:55,940 --> 01:11:54,090 else so or we know it's Matt it has to 1619 01:11:58,250 --> 01:11:55,950 be well it has the characteristics of 1620 01:12:00,830 --> 01:11:58,260 mass meaning that it's gravity it's got 1621 01:12:04,310 --> 01:12:00,840 a pull right it's got to pull this stuff 1622 01:12:06,350 --> 01:12:04,320 in and to keep it in its orbit energy 1623 01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:06,360 doesn't have a pull to it sorry we need 1624 01:12:14,990 --> 01:12:08,850 something that exerts good a good amount 1625 01:12:16,940 --> 01:12:15,000 of gravity so that's one bit you need 1626 01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:16,950 stuff to do 1627 01:12:20,030 --> 01:12:18,570 Benny can I just jump in here second 1628 01:12:22,450 --> 01:12:20,040 yeah just to make sure our questioner 1629 01:12:25,910 --> 01:12:22,460 understands that gravity is a force 1630 01:12:28,580 --> 01:12:25,920 derived from mass you're not getting 1631 01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:28,590 gravity from I mean it you get the 1632 01:12:32,330 --> 01:12:30,330 electromagnetic force from charged 1633 01:12:34,580 --> 01:12:32,340 particles everything gravity is defined 1634 01:12:38,330 --> 01:12:34,590 as force so if you're seeing evidence of 1635 01:12:40,310 --> 01:12:38,340 gravity you're seeing evidence of mass I 1636 01:12:41,750 --> 01:12:40,320 think they're trying to say is there 1637 01:12:45,710 --> 01:12:41,760 something something else that could 1638 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:45,720 cause these flat rotation curves I do 1639 01:12:49,850 --> 01:12:47,250 can't formulate it in terms of gravity 1640 01:12:51,740 --> 01:12:49,860 without being massive right right it has 1641 01:12:53,420 --> 01:12:51,750 to be if you say it's gravity there's 1642 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:53,430 two more things you either have missing 1643 01:12:59,420 --> 01:12:56,370 mass or and that's always a good thing 1644 01:13:01,970 --> 01:12:59,430 to check you don't understand gravity as 1645 01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:01,980 well as you thought you did and so as 1646 01:13:07,460 --> 01:13:03,570 soon as those flat rotation curves came 1647 01:13:09,170 --> 01:13:07,470 out one of the explanation was that well 1648 01:13:12,710 --> 01:13:09,180 we know how gravity works on the solar 1649 01:13:15,290 --> 01:13:12,720 system incredibly well and to the thanks 1650 01:13:19,490 --> 01:13:15,300 to Newton and later Einstein we know how 1651 01:13:21,380 --> 01:13:19,500 it works next to big heavy rantings but 1652 01:13:21,890 --> 01:13:21,390 maybe we don't know what it worked how 1653 01:13:24,779 --> 01:13:21,900 it works 1654 01:13:27,809 --> 01:13:24,789 on really large scales so 1655 01:13:30,179 --> 01:13:27,819 maybe all the galactic scale we're sort 1656 01:13:33,929 --> 01:13:30,189 of missing something and so people have 1657 01:13:36,089 --> 01:13:33,939 been putting this theory forward as like 1658 01:13:38,939 --> 01:13:36,099 well you should always check whether or 1659 01:13:41,779 --> 01:13:38,949 not we understand gravity this well on 1660 01:13:44,759 --> 01:13:41,789 these scales however we have some 1661 01:13:46,619 --> 01:13:44,769 confirmation that galaxies do have a lot 1662 01:13:50,849 --> 01:13:46,629 of stuff in them from something called 1663 01:13:53,179 --> 01:13:50,859 gravitational lensing and this this 1664 01:13:57,239 --> 01:13:53,189 alternative theory called modified 1665 01:13:59,429 --> 01:13:57,249 Newtonian dynamics long does have a 1666 01:14:01,949 --> 01:13:59,439 little bit of trouble making those big 1667 01:14:04,319 --> 01:14:01,959 structures of galaxies and so you need a 1668 01:14:08,489 --> 01:14:04,329 lot of gravity in order to pull 1669 01:14:10,829 --> 01:14:08,499 everything together and so mom hasn't 1670 01:14:12,299 --> 01:14:10,839 been ruled out right so that's that's 1671 01:14:13,739 --> 01:14:12,309 something that I want to be very clear 1672 01:14:16,469 --> 01:14:13,749 about and I think it's incredibly 1673 01:14:18,239 --> 01:14:16,479 healthy to just check your work whether 1674 01:14:21,629 --> 01:14:18,249 or not you understand the gravity or not 1675 01:14:24,479 --> 01:14:21,639 so yeah curious to see how that plays 1676 01:14:27,839 --> 01:14:24,489 out and Ben had add in that those 1677 01:14:29,309 --> 01:14:27,849 computer simulations you showed a lot of 1678 01:14:31,259 --> 01:14:29,319 those computer simulations are very 1679 01:14:33,299 --> 01:14:31,269 successful at producing the observed 1680 01:14:35,759 --> 01:14:33,309 characteristics of gravity and those 1681 01:14:39,359 --> 01:14:35,769 simulations in have inherent in them the 1682 01:14:41,699 --> 01:14:39,369 assumption that dark matter is mass and 1683 01:14:43,799 --> 01:14:41,709 such so we have a very strong 1684 01:14:46,229 --> 01:14:43,809 consistency argument for the dark matter 1685 01:14:49,169 --> 01:14:46,239 up there all right grant got another 1686 01:14:51,569 --> 01:14:49,179 question I do I just want to take one 1687 01:14:53,549 --> 01:14:51,579 minute to say that that would mean that 1688 01:14:58,079 --> 01:14:53,559 they are made out of star stuff wouldn't 1689 01:15:00,959 --> 01:14:58,089 it been a I couldn't resist I'm sorry 1690 01:15:04,889 --> 01:15:00,969 alright I have two quick ones and I 1691 01:15:07,919 --> 01:15:04,899 think we will call it a stream our most 1692 01:15:11,099 --> 01:15:07,929 galaxies dwarf and what is the average 1693 01:15:14,489 --> 01:15:11,109 size of galaxies based on star masses to 1694 01:15:17,759 --> 01:15:14,499 your best knowledge to the off the top 1695 01:15:22,229 --> 01:15:17,769 of my head yes so observable galaxies of 1696 01:15:23,789 --> 01:15:22,239 course right so we have a in I keep 1697 01:15:25,589 --> 01:15:23,799 telling my students this if you're an 1698 01:15:27,569 --> 01:15:25,599 astronomer you're going to see what 1699 01:15:30,779 --> 01:15:27,579 you're gonna see and you're gonna miss 1700 01:15:34,259 --> 01:15:30,789 what you're gonna miss and so small 1701 01:15:36,449 --> 01:15:34,269 galaxies are easy to miss but there are 1702 01:15:38,459 --> 01:15:36,459 a lot of them and so you can only see 1703 01:15:40,890 --> 01:15:38,469 them in a very small volume 1704 01:15:42,689 --> 01:15:40,900 could only see them very nearby but they 1705 01:15:45,540 --> 01:15:42,699 seem to be very very common but some big 1706 01:15:48,060 --> 01:15:45,550 guys like this this one you can see them 1707 01:15:51,330 --> 01:15:48,070 too much further away so if you just 1708 01:15:53,430 --> 01:15:51,340 take your you know you just count 1709 01:15:56,609 --> 01:15:53,440 whatever you've got on the sky and you 1710 01:15:58,649 --> 01:15:56,619 take that at face value you've over 1711 01:16:00,750 --> 01:15:58,659 counted big things like this completely 1712 01:16:04,529 --> 01:16:00,760 and so you said go like home 1713 01:16:06,959 --> 01:16:04,539 monsters are everywhere but that's not 1714 01:16:11,310 --> 01:16:06,969 the case you've just missed all the 1715 01:16:16,919 --> 01:16:11,320 little things and and so small galaxies 1716 01:16:20,279 --> 01:16:16,929 if about billion yeah a billion to about 1717 01:16:21,839 --> 01:16:20,289 ten billion solar masses that's the most 1718 01:16:23,819 --> 01:16:21,849 common galaxies those are the most 1719 01:16:25,770 --> 01:16:23,829 common galaxies in their universe they 1720 01:16:27,239 --> 01:16:25,780 are everywhere but they are the first 1721 01:16:28,620 --> 01:16:27,249 things that drop out of your survey 1722 01:16:30,239 --> 01:16:28,630 they're the first things if you start 1723 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:30,249 staring like you pick up you're like oh 1724 01:16:34,370 --> 01:16:32,050 there's all the little dwarf galaxies 1725 01:16:38,069 --> 01:16:34,380 there they are so they're quite common 1726 01:16:42,290 --> 01:16:38,079 excuse people a sense of scale what 1727 01:16:44,910 --> 01:16:42,300 would that be in relation to the skies 1728 01:16:46,379 --> 01:16:44,920 so we're gonna add warf galaxies the 1729 01:16:48,629 --> 01:16:46,389 most common what would be a benchmark 1730 01:16:50,910 --> 01:16:48,639 for the audience well if you look at 1731 01:16:53,759 --> 01:16:50,920 this picture so got the picture up you 1732 01:16:55,529 --> 01:16:53,769 should look at one of these blue clumps 1733 01:16:57,540 --> 01:16:55,539 on the outskirts you can see one right 1734 01:16:59,239 --> 01:16:57,550 you see that diffraction spike you see 1735 01:17:03,509 --> 01:16:59,249 something right underneath there that's 1736 01:17:06,330 --> 01:17:03,519 a dwarf galaxy this thing is like that 1737 01:17:07,830 --> 01:17:06,340 would be the size of a dwarf galaxy but 1738 01:17:09,660 --> 01:17:07,840 that's not what a dwarf galaxy looks 1739 01:17:12,229 --> 01:17:09,670 like that's clearly part of the spiral 1740 01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:12,239 structure of this whole thing but yeah 1741 01:17:18,989 --> 01:17:14,650 it gives an idea of the sense of scale 1742 01:17:21,419 --> 01:17:18,999 they are much smaller it's worse yeah 1743 01:17:22,950 --> 01:17:21,429 and you know using the numbers that you 1744 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:22,960 provided if this is a trillion solar 1745 01:17:27,660 --> 01:17:26,050 masses and a typical galaxy is a billion 1746 01:17:30,509 --> 01:17:27,670 solar mass that's one one thousandth the 1747 01:17:31,950 --> 01:17:30,519 size of this galaxy you know so and 1748 01:17:33,270 --> 01:17:31,960 that's just in the stellar mass that 1749 01:17:35,669 --> 01:17:33,280 doesn't include the dark matter on it 1750 01:17:38,489 --> 01:17:35,679 and it there so that gives you some 1751 01:17:39,750 --> 01:17:38,499 numbers also in the local group of 1752 01:17:43,350 --> 01:17:39,760 galaxies we have about three dozen 1753 01:17:46,020 --> 01:17:43,360 galaxies only three of those are big 1754 01:17:49,709 --> 01:17:46,030 galaxies the Andromeda the Milky Way and 1755 01:17:52,649 --> 01:17:49,719 m33 the rest are these small galaxies so 1756 01:17:56,779 --> 01:17:52,659 even locally the the dwarfs have 1757 01:17:59,879 --> 01:17:56,789 inherited the universe mile and slide 1758 01:18:01,609 --> 01:17:59,889 all right and the last question one of 1759 01:18:04,379 --> 01:18:01,619 the things that you noted was that 1760 01:18:06,989 --> 01:18:04,389 globular clusters have a tendency to 1761 01:18:10,890 --> 01:18:06,999 stay together in this almost spherical 1762 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:10,900 pattern do they break apart when they 1763 01:18:15,450 --> 01:18:13,570 are devoured by another body or when 1764 01:18:18,540 --> 01:18:15,460 they interact with other galaxies or do 1765 01:18:20,370 --> 01:18:18,550 they tend to keep their cohesion they 1766 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:20,380 tend to keep they tend to stick around 1767 01:18:24,959 --> 01:18:22,690 and the reason for that is not because 1768 01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:24,969 of dark matter they are just a really 1769 01:18:31,770 --> 01:18:27,489 dense grouping of stars so they kind of 1770 01:18:34,859 --> 01:18:31,780 stick together based on that so while 1771 01:18:37,290 --> 01:18:34,869 the the more extended galaxy is tidally 1772 01:18:39,629 --> 01:18:37,300 stripped and into these streams the 1773 01:18:41,250 --> 01:18:39,639 globular clusters themselves stay stick 1774 01:18:44,910 --> 01:18:41,260 around let's start orbiting the bigger 1775 01:18:48,660 --> 01:18:44,920 galaxies so you tend to find the globe 1776 01:18:50,489 --> 01:18:48,670 of the clusters long after the the 1777 01:18:53,729 --> 01:18:50,499 parent galaxy has been shredded by the 1778 01:18:57,359 --> 01:18:53,739 body encounter and not only that we've 1779 01:18:58,890 --> 01:18:57,369 actually seen some strings of globular 1780 01:19:00,810 --> 01:18:58,900 clusters that clearly have a different 1781 01:19:03,959 --> 01:19:00,820 color than the rest of them and so they 1782 01:19:05,129 --> 01:19:03,969 must have come from another galaxy and 1783 01:19:07,859 --> 01:19:05,139 they serve a fault they're still 1784 01:19:10,739 --> 01:19:07,869 following the old galaxies orbit but 1785 01:19:12,959 --> 01:19:10,749 they they definitely seemed to survive 1786 01:19:17,850 --> 01:19:12,969 pretty well they survived our own Milky 1787 01:19:20,310 --> 01:19:17,860 Way for a few billion years so yeah all 1788 01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,320 right well thank you Benny thank you 1789 01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:22,719 grant for providing the questions and 1790 01:19:28,109 --> 01:19:24,880 thank you to our audience for showing up 1791 01:19:29,819 --> 01:19:28,119 this was our very first online only 1792 01:19:32,100 --> 01:19:29,829 public lecture series we were doing them 1793 01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:32,110 again every month we're gonna try and 1794 01:19:39,330 --> 01:19:34,690 keep to the first Tuesday of the month 1795 01:19:41,189 --> 01:19:39,340 us date but we'll have to figure out 1796 01:19:43,859 --> 01:19:41,199 whether or not it works out doing that 1797 01:19:46,379 --> 01:19:43,869 like this in the afternoon or if it 1798 01:19:49,529 --> 01:19:46,389 might work better if we do it 1799 01:19:53,819 --> 01:19:49,539 back at the APM in the evening well 1800 01:19:56,489 --> 01:19:53,829 probably survey the folks on our email 1801 01:19:59,399 --> 01:19:56,499 list to find out about that next month 1802 01:20:01,799 --> 01:19:59,409 again interstellar comets by am i 1803 01:20:03,419 --> 01:20:01,809 immoral martin going to be a cool talk 1804 01:20:05,399 --> 01:20:03,429 let us give one more